Another MG USA popup

[slotplayer]

came across another USA pop up
xhttp://www.jackpotcity.com/

 

[bonustreak]

I will see what I can find out asap.

 

[Pokerkeep]

came across another USA pop up
xhttp://www.jackpotcity.com/

FFS - this new trend is really bad for business!!
Here we are still waiting for Focal Click to let us know they have finally resolved the same issue and now this.... ARRRRRRG!!!

 

[Pokerkeep]

Can someone from the US please go to coolhandpoker.com and see if they also get the pop up or redirect?

I give these guys tons of coverage and will not be happy if they are siphoning off my US players!! In fact, I have the top position in G for their site name (right behind the site itself)... it would be a shame if I had to post bad publicity about them....

 

[KasinoKing]

FFS - this new trend is really bad for business!!
Here we are still waiting for Focal Click to let us know they have finally resolved the same issue and now this.... ARRRRRRG!!!

I give these guys tons of coverage and will not be happy if they are siphoning off my US players!!

I wish I hadn't started reading this thread now - I'm SO confused! ???

Focal Click are behind Omni - a PlayTech casino - what has that to do with this MG casino?
And how can this MG casino/poker room be "siphoning off" USA players when Americans are not allowed to play at any MG site in the first place...?

KK

 

[Pokerkeep]

In a nutshell - a month (or so) ago, it was discovered that Omni and Sun (Focal Click) were re-directing American players who landed on their pages to a third party site. The site was/is an affiliate portal. So, in essence, they are passing our players (the ones we send through our links) to another affiliate site.

from the wording of post above, I assume this is what is happening now at Jackpotcity - a Referback property. My concern is that if they are redirecting from one property, they may be doing it at others.

 

[triple777s]

Terry, no redirect or pop up at Cool Hand Poker. Just went there and it was cool.

pat

 

[Pokerkeep]

Terry, no redirect or pop up at Cool Hand Poker. Just went there and it was cool.

pat

Thanks Pat - that's the only Referback property I list....

I would love to hear from Cobus or one of the other reps though, re; Jackpotcity. This is not cool for their affiliates and needs to be dealt with ASAP!

 

[Pokerkeep]

For the record, even though these casinos don't accept American players, and even though I discourage my readers from the US from visiting these properties, they do anyway.

In Feb - Cool Hand Poker received 25 American visits from my links.
In March - so far they have received 21 visitors from the US via my sites.

That's 46 potential customers that I could have lost to a competitor if Cool Hand was using the redirect/pop up to direct players to a competing portal.

 

[bonustreak]

I am just confused on why this is really an issue though to be honest. I know this will not be a popular thing to say but why is this so bad? We as affiliates can implement a code to have a pop up for players that land on say a Rival site that we no longer want to promote and redirect them to a RTG site and that is okay to do. I think this casino decided to make a marketing deal with a USA facing brand and that is they way of these things now days BUT if they were directing and cross marketing our players that have already played in the casino to another software provider that would be wrong. This is not the case here with this marketing deal.

 

[Pokerkeep]

If the players were being redirected to a US facing site and we were credited with the sign up, I wouldn't be too unhappy although I still think that's over the top and bad for business. It should be my choice to decide what sites my links go to. When a visitor at my site clicks a link for abc casino, he/she expects to land at abc casino, not xyz casino or some other affiliate portal.

In the case of Focal Click, they are sending players to another affiliate's site. That, to me, is way out of line.

The correct procedure would be to block the site from loading and/or display a message that citizens of the United States are not allowed to access the website.

We all work too hard for our visitors to be siphoned off to a competing affiliate. I'll drop any program that thinks so little of me and my business.

 

[ShaneAddinall]

Referback - monetising USA traffic soon!

Hi everyone,

Here is a quick update on the points raised in this thread:

1. Referback will be offering affiliates additional revenue from the USA visitors who come through to our non USA casino brands.
2. This is only on casino and not on poker, so CoolHandPoker.com is not affected, neither is Jackpot City Bingo.
3. All redirected visitors, who become active, will be attributed to the affiliate who sent them. Your traffic=your player=your income!
4. Commission will be the full percentage value due based on the player netwin (i.e. 35% is 35%, it's not 17.5%)

To date we have not allowed any traffic sent to us with an affiliate id in the string to be redirected. This was done to ensure we only activated it for affiliates once it had been proven to us that we would be able to track the traffic back to affiliates.

I will be sending out an official communication on this in the next few hours.

All the best,
Shane

 

[Pokerkeep]

Hi Shane,

First - thanks for coming in and clarifying the matter. It is appreciated.

Now, a couple questions....
Will affiliates have the choice of opting out? In other words, will all American traffic be redirected to this as yet unnamed casino or will affs have the option of having the player redirected back to their own sites instead?

What casino is the redirect pointing to?

 

[ShaneAddinall]

Hi Shane,

First - thanks for coming in and clarifying the matter. It is appreciated.

Now, a couple questions....
Will affiliates have the choice of opting out? In other words, will all American traffic be redirected to this as yet unnamed casino or will affs have the option of having the player redirected back to their own sites instead?

What casino is the redirect pointing to?

No problem, I was hoping to get an official comm's out before it was picked up but you guys beat me to it

I definitely see no downside to this for affiliates as we will be paying the same percentage on redirected players as we do on our own brands - that being said, if an affiliate would prefer to be excluded that can be done.

As for the brand, we're partnering with Slotastic.com to bring players a USA offering.

We don't actually do a hard redirect but simply have a pop-in which offers them a USA specific offer (with download and flash links to Slotastic). They can choose to close the pop-in and continue to navigate the casino site they originally clicked through to.

This lack of actual hard redirects means we can't "redirect" visitors back to an affiliates site who opt out of this USA solution - we simply won't show their traffic the USA pop-in as above.

Hope this helps.

Shane

 

[Pokerkeep]

Many thanks sir. It's good to see you've covered all the bases. I think it's important affs have a choice for any number of reasons. Kudos to you and Referback for allowing that.

 

[bonustreak]

Referback has made a move to ensure that we are able to offer our affiliates the best possible financial return on the placements they’ve given us. This is being facilitated by a partnership between referback.com and the US facing casino brand Slotastic.com.

We went into this partnership with 2 things in mind:
1. Our affiliates must get maximum value from this deal
2. Our affiliates need to do nothing extra to benefit
Here is what we have put in place to ensure that we meet both of those criteria:
Our affiliates must get maximum value from this deal:
· Affiliates will now be rewarded for both their US and non-US traffic with referback.com!
· Referback affiliates earn on the total net revenue generated by their players at Slotastic.com
Our affiliates need to do nothing extra to benefit:
· Traffic from the USA which lands on Jackpotcity.com will automatically be notified of an exclusive “USA Players Only” offer.
· Your Affiliate Id will carryover from the referback casino banner or text link, there is no need to apply any new tags to earn revenue from redirected visitors.
· Player acquisition and revenue reports for all redirected players will be provided to ensure you can track your earnings!
Mini-FAQ:
a. Where are the reports?
· Reports are currently being developed, timelines to follow soon.
b. How do I get paid?
· All payments for redirected players will be made by the 10<SUP>th</SUP> working day.
c. How will the redirect work?
· The player is not actually forced from the original site to Slotastic.com.
· The player from any region not accepted by MGS will be served a pop-in offering them an offer exclusive to their region with the option to download or play the flash casino. These links are Slotastic.com links where USA players are welcomed with open arms.
d. What casino will it be redirected to?
· The partner casino is Slotastic, visit them at http://www.slotastic.com
e. How do we trust that the third-party casino will be trustworthy?
· The owners of brands supported by referback.com sought out a partner who had an extensive, trustworthy, history in the gaming industry and partnered with them on their new venture, Slotastic.com.
· In addition to this Referback would not lightly entertain any partnership which would be harmful to our affiliates. You are the life blood of referback... without you we do not exist.

There will naturally be other questions which will come to mind over time, please contact either myself directly or drop us an email at support@referback.com and we will gladly discuss this with you further.

Thanks,
Cobus

So there you have it I knew that Referback would make sure the affiliates are taken care of!