BoyleSports terms change

[ThePOGG]

Just spotted this one come through:

9. vii. Your BoyleSports affiliate account must have a minimum of 5 active referred depositing customers in any given month before you will be eligible for Referral Commission payment. A deposit does not need to occur every month to count, but a customer must be active in the payment month in order to be eligable.

I'm not totally sure the above actually makes a lot to sense. It seems to me that you have to have 5 active referred depositing customers before you can get paid, but not all 5 of them need to deposit every month, maybe.

 

[Guard Dog]

Boyle has always had a quota from what I remember. Here are terms we flagged sometime back:

* Commission Affiliates will earn a referral commission of 30 25% or more, based on the net revenue generated from customers referred from your site after they open an account with Boylesports and wager for real money at Boylesports.com [CHANGED: 5/31/2012]

* We reserve the right to implement retrospective negative carryover [ADDED: 6/20/2012]

* Your Boylesports affiliate account must have a minimum of 5 active referred depositing customers before you will be eligible for referral commission payment [ADDED: 10/29/2013]


That's all I have on bad terms in our system... there are other inconsequential changes. The above change you noted actually sounds better than the one they had in 2013 which was more global in scope.

 

[ThePOGG]

Boyle has always had a quota from what I remember. Here are terms we flagged sometime back:

* Commission Affiliates will earn a referral commission of 30 25% or more, based on the net revenue generated from customers referred from your site after they open an account with Boylesports and wager for real money at Boylesports.com [CHANGED: 5/31/2012]

* We reserve the right to implement retrospective negative carryover [ADDED: 6/20/2012]

* Your Boylesports affiliate account must have a minimum of 5 active referred depositing customers before you will be eligible for referral commission payment [ADDED: 10/29/2013]


That's all I have on bad terms in our system... there are other inconsequential changes. The above change you noted actually sounds better than the one they had in 2013 which was more global in scope.

I'm not entirely sure of that - the third term you quote puts in a requirement to have 5 depositing customers before you'll ever receive a payment. That's not a great term but for most affiliates it is just a delay as they will reach 5 eventually. The new terms reads to me like the affiliate requires 5 customers in a month if you're going to receive a payment, not 5 overall. If that's the case many affiliates may never reach that and could have sent through significant traffic in the 1-4 region of a period before then without ever receiving a payment.

Terms have to be clear and I think that term change could be interpreted in a number of ways. I certainly don't think it's clear what their intention is.

 

[Guard Dog]

I can see your point there. However - the meaning behind the original term is that you had to FIRST get 5 depositing players before being paid... then you were ok. I remember the term well. Now it says you have to have 5 players in any given month (not just when you first join the program).

 

[Guard Dog]

In fact... the VERY ORIGINAL term was this:

Minimum Referral Requirement Boylesports affiliates are required to refer a minimum of 5 active customers within a three month period of joining the programme. Should an affiliate not reach this requirement the affiliate account may be closed.

 

[ThePOGG]

I can see your point there. However - the meaning behind the original term is that you had to FIRST get 5 depositing players before being paid... then you were ok. I remember the term well. Now it says you have to have 5 players in any given month (not just when you first join the program).

I wouldn't go as far as okay, it's still a negative term. But even saying that you have to have 5 players in any given month doesn't seem quite right given the second section that was added. There aren't going to be many "active" players that don't deposit within a month, seems an odd exception to make.

Overall I'd say you're probably right in your interpretation - this term seems likely to mean '5 playing players in a month to receive a payment' which is worse than it was before.

 

[Guard Dog]

Yep, definitely a negative term and was the reason why they were never certified at AGD. We consider it a predatory term in all cases.

 

[KasinoKing]

Thanks for bringing this subject up - I had no idea they had such predatory terms

I've been promoting Boyles since 2009 and never had any problems with payments or anything else relating to my affy account.
Never done much with them though: $53 for the WHOLE of 2013, $0 for 2014, and only $245 this year - all in Feb.
But then I played in the casino with my commission and had an amazing run! Got balance close to £1,000 at one point and finally cashed out £500 (about $820), leaving £100 in the account for some more fun. That's one way to increase your earnings!

Anyway, I light of these awful terms I think I will kick them into touch. Another Playtech-based joke of an operator bites the dust - I will be down to only 1 or 2 Playtechs soon, the way things are going.

KK

 

[davideds789]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but can anyone clarify what the term now means? I have had an email from them saying that the 915 euros I earned last month will not be getting paid as I did not have 5 active players. Will this commission be paid the following month if I get the 5 players or is it now just written off? Either way I am pretty angry at this as months previous have all been paid to me even though I did not have the 5 required players. I am waiting on a reply from them but of course they take their time with replies and sometimes do not even bother to reply at all.

Thanks

 

[KasinoKing]

Will this commission be paid the following month if I get the 5 players or is it now just written off?

I'm 99.9% sure it will just be carried over until you get 5 players.
It would be scandalous if they kept your money!

I dumped Boyles (and a few others) in December for adding this predatory term.
I suggest all other smaller affiliates should do the same.
It's just not worth the potential grief of having an awful term like this hanging over your head.

KK

 

[davideds789]

Yeah ideally I would like to dump them but one of my 2 depositing players is quite a high roller so I need to try and make the effort. To be fair to them they have always paid me regardless of the term but this month they are deciding not to which is a bit shitty as it is a decent amount.

 

[davideds789]

By the way the email I received is below. To me it does sound as if it will be paid once I get 5 active players but not had a reply to clarify.

For the commission, I checked your account details and can confirm that you have an outstanding balance of €2,407.37.
Please note that in order to receive your payment, the following minimum requirements must be met.
1. €100 earnings over the course of the month
2. 5 active customers

Your active customers for all the previous months were less than 5, that's why the commissions were not processed.
I have amalgamated all your open payments including the under-limits and added as a fixed amount to your March commission. You will see that the staus has been changed to cancelled indicating it has been added.

Please see breakdown of your amalgamated commissions below:

Month Payment Status Reward
2016-02 Cancelled 915.41
2016-01 Cancelled
2015-12 Cancelled
2015-11 Cancelled
2015-09 Cancelled
2015-06 Cancelled
2015-05 Cancelled
2015-04 Cancelled


I have removed the commissions but this is the email. Can anyone make sense?


Thanks

 

[www.bookmakers2u.com]

I can now see they changed to the better.

9.COMMISSION
vii. Your BoyleSports affiliate account must have a minimum of 5 active referred depositing customers lifetime before you will be eligible for Referral Commission payment. A deposit does not need to occur every month to count, but a customer must be active in the payment month in order to be eligible.

sounds pretty fair to me.

davideds789. Have you been paid?

 

[KasinoKing]

I can now see they changed to the better.

9.COMMISSION
vii. Your BoyleSports affiliate account must have a minimum of 5 active referred depositing customers lifetime before you will be eligible for Referral Commission payment. A deposit does not need to occur every month to count, but a customer must be active in the payment month in order to be eligible.

sounds pretty fair to me.

davideds789. Have you been paid?

That still doesn't make any sense: I mean, if you don't have ANY active customers, then you wont earn anything, so there's no need to worry if you are eligible for a payment or not!
Crazy.

KK