Slotman casino (Heroicaffiliates) Scammers

[raspirancy]

Hi, want to tell you story, how Heroicaffiliates scam us.
Last month we got agreement with them to work on cpa deal.
We brought 2 depositing players, and last week when I asked about payment I got answer
'Unfortunately, your traffic was identified as fraudulent by our anti-fraud system and we cannot pay for it in full, all I can do here is to get you a payment of 45% RevShare for this traffic.'
I don't aggree because we never do that, and after that my account manager Andrew ignoring me.
First if it would be Fraud casino will never ask to pay earnings in 45% rev share.
Second I checked my stats and players average deposit amount is around ~50eu.
SO they wasn't happy with players value and decided to don't pay earnings saying that this is fraud.
But deal is deal, if they wasn't happy with players value they can stop compaign and pay earnings, but they didn't write me anything while I asked them about payment.
Is it normal?
I think they should move to ROGUE affiliates.

 

[MissExposé]

We broght your post to the affiliates attention. Keep you posted.

 

[TTR]

Hi, want to tell you story, how Heroicaffiliates scam us.
Last month we got agreement with them to work on cpa deal.
We brought 2 depositing players, and last week when I asked about payment I got answer
'Unfortunately, your traffic was identified as fraudulent by our anti-fraud system and we cannot pay for it in full, all I can do here is to get you a payment of 45% RevShare for this traffic.'
I don't aggree because we never do that, and after that my account manager Andrew ignoring me.
First if it would be Fraud casino will never ask to pay earnings in 45% rev share.
Second I checked my stats and players average deposit amount is around ~50eu.
SO they wasn't happy with players value and decided to don't pay earnings saying that this is fraud.
But deal is deal, if they wasn't happy with players value they can stop compaign and pay earnings, but they didn't write me anything while I asked them about payment.
Is it normal?
I think they should move to ROGUE affiliates.

facepalm

I think real scammer is you, lol CPA with 2 players and u known even deposits... and your post looks like you tried the frod + topic name
Also they offered 45 rev shate instead of CPA...

 

[raspirancy]

facepalm

I think real scammer is you, lol CPA with 2 players and u known even deposits... and your post looks like you tried the frod + topic name
Also they offered 45 rev shate instead of CPA...

I think you don't know that Heroicaffiliates affiliates shows deposits amounts working on cpa too!
If I would do Scam I will not share deposit amounts here...
If Heroicaffiliates would not be scammers they would answer here, because I sent this story link for them.
They offered to pay for these 2 players in 45% rev share instead of cpa.
I full understand that value wasn't the best, but deal is deal.
it's same as I bring high depositors on rev share and they ask to pay on cpa.

 

[Alchemist]

So what if you worked in RS and you got a player depositing 10k? They would say we will pay CPA? Deal is a deal as you said.

 

[Lucy CBC]

Agree, a deal is a deal. And if the issue is the FTD amount, then they should have specified initially, that the CPA is to be triggered on a specific threshold..otherwise, not cool at all. They should give further explanations maybe, send you a report with players' behaviour or smth...

 

[Strider1973]

It's always the same and I wonder why casino affiliates want to do CPA.
High CPAs just ask for trouble because both sides have an incentive to cheat the other party.

If you don't trust the program on RS then just move on and look for a more reputable one.

Anyway, I'd never want to waste my time with traffic quality discussions of 2 CPA players.

 

[raspirancy]

It's a matter of principle, also we worked with them only ~2 weeks.
Thanks GOD that it was only 2 players... But I think gambling industry should know about all scammers.
@MissExposé Any news from them?
Thanks!

 

[MissExposé]

We are chatting with the affiliates regarding your complaint, keep you posted.

 

[MissExposé]

@raspirancy
The update we got from the Heroic Affiliates is that your traffic was marked as fraudulent by their anti-fraud system. We asked the representatives to send us proof of fraudulent activity (with sensitive details hidden), but unfortunately, their anti-fraud system is external and the external organisation won't provide them with details about the anti-fraud parameters they look at.

Unfortunately, we cannot assist you further in this matter.

 

[Bingostarr]

I have worked with these guys and though it doesn't convert as well as some other similar brands it does ok and they seem genuine.

 

[AussieDave]

@raspirancy
unfortunately, their anti-fraud system is external and the external organisation won't provide them with details about the anti-fraud parameters they look at.

How convenient for the affiliate program.

CPA's are a mugs game, unless you have history with the program, and you know they'll pay. Same goes with a program offering CPA's to unknown affiliates. Without this criteria, CPA's are akin to playing Russian Roulette. If I had a buck for every affiliate who has come to AGD Forum crying about not being paid on their CPA...

 

[Gundyr]

Oh, yes ! I played, they wouldn't let me withdraw the funds! These damn scammers

 

[Frank]

Not sure why a casino wouls want to scam someone for 2 CPA? usually the biggest CPA scammers are affiliates, how many one post wonders do we ghet here? usually run by those parasite type sites ..

 

[Gundyr]

There are a lot of moshes in the gambling world. I have seen scams both in regular casinos and in online casinos. There are many ways to cheat players and take all their money, and there are so many articles about this. Every year there are more and more ways to cheat players, and even experienced players like me can be tricked. It is for these reasons that I decided to switch to betting. It is an entirely different level, and it is much easier to win there if you correctly analyze the world of sports. To conclude and analyze.

 

[Alchemist]

Casinos don't need to trick players (house always wins in the long run). Well some casinos are choosing to scam players and affiliates though... same for some affiliates and players trying to trick casinos right (bonus abuse etc)?

 

[AussieDave]

bonus abuse

This came up the other day at the GPWA, and I posted accordingly...

Fact 1/. When I commenced gambling at online casinos in 1997, the bonus wagering was 1x. From memory one could play anything other than roulette.

By 2005, the average wagering amount had increased to 10x (still achievable). Though more table games were added to the exclusion list.

Fast forward to present day 2021... The majority of deposit bonuses come with a 40x wagering. Some even go so far as forcing a player: 30x Deposit + 30x Bonus = 60x Wagering.

The EV on these absurd wagering requirements are mental.

Worse, casinos not happy with the insane wagering, have concocted yet another player-rip-off, now certain slot machines are banned from bonus play. I mean REALLY???!!!

Last time I check Slot Machines are a game of chance, luck...

Winning on slots is not determined by any skill what so ever.

Bonus abuse... don't you mean, player abuse!

 

[Alchemist]

Yeah I ment creating multiple accounts for grabbing bonuses many times on the same casino.. Present day, bonuses are not for making any profit out of them. Most of them are capped with max win as well. Actually playing with bonus money is a waste of time but this is only for me. I never use any...

 

[AussieDave]

Yeah I ment creating multiple accounts for grabbing bonuses many times on the same casino.

Sure it happens.

However, playing the Devil's Advocate, casinos/programs, are never forthcoming with proof. For all we know they could be BS, and using that as an excuse not to pay the player; it's not like that doesn't happen.

I don't use deposit bonuses either. But that's a moot point. A lot players still use them.

There lays the problem. Bonuses are a scam, end of story

 

[Alchemist]

Yeah I agree on this. But we took conversation here in another subject.. Point is, shady people are everywhere in both ends.. Could be mostly casinos? Probably yes. Regarding this post, a deal is a deal, there is no such thing as 2 depositing fraudulent players. Who would send 2 friends of him to grab 2 CPA's? I also refused a 1 player CPA in the past.. I thought it was a joke (not this program)