Toplayaffiliates (lucky247 casino) don't pay earnings

[Adam.aff]

Hello!
I want to warn everybody who works with Toplayaffiliates (Lucky247 casino) on CPA deal.
Last month we started working with them on cpa deal.
We brought 2 depositing players.
This month I received email from them
'We've reviewed your account and the CPA deal and have found that in order to proceed we will need to move your account into RevShare.
The player value is extremely low and we are not able to justify the CPA rate for these players.
For this reason we've moved the account to the default RevShare rate which is 50% on Net.
If you've got any objections please do let me know but in order to even consider a CPA deal we are required to see either player values to increase drastically and or much better quality players to be brought in.'
Is it normal?!
They tell me that they will pay when these players will make more deposits...
Or when i will bring high depositing player..
But deal is deal, if they are not happy with our players value they should pay!
I'm right?
Please help me to fight with them!
BTW we are working with lots of casino operators, but we never had the same problem..
Thanks for reading and all guys BE CAREFUL working with TOPAYAFFILIATES ..

 

[CaseyM]

I work with them on revshare and have always been really pleased with these guys, they pay on time each month and convert and retain players well

 

[falseadoom]

It's normal for them to expect a decent deposit value on cpa deal. As past affiliates have scammed on cpa deals by sending small deposit in order to collect higher cpa deal.
Example: lets say you signed up for a 200 cpa deal but you send players purchasing a min of 50, the casinos are losing 150 on each player. So they do have right to move you since you did not fullfill your end of deal by having to low of player value.

5.1.4 CPA Payment Plan: In accordance with the CPA Payment Plan, you will receive a one-off payment for every New Player you direct to any of our Sites. A CPA Payment will be owed and payable to you if and when a qualifying Player completes first registration on one of the Sites, deposits the minimum required amount and meets the minimum wagering activity requirements, as previously agreed upon in writing with your Affiliate Manager.

 

[Kadabra]

5.1.4 CPA Payment Plan: In accordance with the CPA Payment Plan, you will receive a one-off payment for every New Player you direct to any of our Sites. A CPA Payment will be owed and payable to you if and when a qualifying Player completes first registration on one of the Sites, deposits the minimum required amount and meets the minimum wagering activity requirements, as previously agreed upon in writing with your Affiliate Manager.

I assume that Adam's players met the requirements otherwise he wouldn't be complaining and ToPlay wouldn't care to move him to rev-share.

So, if your players met the criteria then you should definitely be paid for them. They can move you to rev-share whenever they like, but that should't affect your earnings retroactively.

 

[Adam.aff]

My players met cpa requirements, and last month earnings was 466EU (for 2 cpa players) on their affiliate program.
So they are unfair, and they should be on ROGUE affiliate programs list.
toplayaffiliates.com does not comply with the contract.
How to add them to Rogue Casino Affiliate Programs List?

Thanks!

 

[Kadabra]

I would love to hear an update (have them on some minor pages). Thank you

 

[Casinodriver]

They must pay for these 2 players and then switch the deal to revenue share. If the affiliate encouraged or incentivized these 2 players to deposit to get the CPA , well then I would find the casino right to not to pay but it is not the case here - They do not want to pay due to poor quality of 2 players which reached the criteria to get paid.

 

[DaftDog]

LMFAO - I find it exremeley funny when a brand new AGD member signs up and their first post is to complain bitterley about a CPA deal gone wrong. If you had been a long standing member of this forum I might see your post a bit differently.

How do you know these players met the following requirements?
..deposits the minimum required amount and meets the minimum wagering activity requirements..

Stay away from CPA deals because, it seems, they just cause tears.

 

[Kadabra]

I think you should give him the benefit of a doubt. It's true that there are plenty CPA fraudsters that signup here after getting caught, but there are some decent affs that got screwed. They don't have to be new even, just less social.

Despite that: Adam, how do you refer players: seo, mailers, flyers?

 

[DaftDog]

I think you should give him the benefit of a doubt. It's true that there are plenty CPA fraudsters that signup here after getting caught, but there are some decent affs that got screwed. They don't have to be new even, just less social.

I don't owe this person anything and will definetly NOT give him or her the benefit of the doubt as I feel they are not genuine. I'm not talking about less vocal members. I'm refering directly to Adam.aff who joined this forum on the 14th of July 2016 and then made their "I got screwed on a CPA deal" first post on the very same day. I can generally spot a con a mile away.

 

[slotplayer]

I'd take the 50% on NET, if its even true. This is the houdini industry, masters of illusion.