What are your best performing Rivals?

[WCD Admin]

Here is my list (generally speaking)
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1. Superior Share
2. Pantasia (only recently)
3. Slot-o-Cash
4. Lion Slots (normally better)
5. Slot of Fortune
6. 400 Affs
7. The rest aren't performing that well / mostly tied

There are so many Rivals out there you have to pick and choose but that can be a good thing. I'm curious how people are doing with the newer brands...

 

[Guard Dog]

It's very strange for me.... It's like each month I get negatives and positives on each.

Over the year-to-date:

1. Slotocash
2. 400 Affiliates
3. Pantasia
4. Lionslots
5. Rockbet


That is somewhat of a guess from memory.. I was going to look in Statsremote over the year, but since negatives factor into their calculations, it didn't work very well

I have swings of negatives and positives so much that most (besides Slotocash) cancel out in the statsremote interface.

 

[bb1webs]

Lions and 400 have been doing the best for me of recent

 

[TheGamblingGuru]

Can someone please explain to me:

1. How Slotocash calculates our commissions?

2. And why they calculate them different from all the other Rival casinos?

Thanks

 

[WCD Admin]

Can someone please explain to me:
1. How Slotocash calculates our commissions?
2. And why they calculate them different from all the other Rival casinos?

Hmmm, I'd be interested to know that too, if that is true. Are you sure you don't just have a different commission rate or something?

I've also noticed that it seems its nearly random. Like this month Pantasia is beating everyone up except for Superior Share for me, but normally I don't do well with them - I have a nice player this month. Maybe I just don't have enough of a player base yet to make these sorts of judgements (OR) maybe its all based on luck (imagine that ;D)

thanks guys :]

 

[TheGamblingGuru]

Hmmm, I'd be interested to know that too, if that is true. Are you sure you don't just have a different commission rate or something?

I've also noticed that it seems its nearly random. Like this month Pantasia is beating everyone up except for Superior Share for me, but normally I don't do well with them - I have a nice player this month. Maybe I just don't have enough of a player base yet to make these sorts of judgements (OR) maybe its all based on luck (imagine that ;D)

thanks guys :]

Maybe I should have clarified my question more clearly...

Slotocash is the only Rival casino that does not figure your commissions strictly as a percentage of the deposit amount lost by the player but some other strange way that I cannot quite figure out.

This month I have one player who has deposited only $75 but yet it shows my wagering commission as $60.54 which would be my earnings from this one particular player, mind you I certainly am not complaining here but would just like to know more about how they calculate this.

His "Wagering Profit" as they call it was $201.79 and if I multiply 30% commission against that I get $60.537 which they round up to $60.54

What I don't understand is why Slotocash is the only Rival to calculate our commissions this way? Because it can also go in the other direction too even if the depositor still loses the deposits he made but does not have as much "Wagering Profit".

 

[bb1webs]

Thats what always scared me about wagershare where you are paid on how much they gamble not how much they won/lost.

Its my experience ... and this based just on me ... that most times if I lose .. it happens pretty quick and I seldom chase ... if I win ... well I hightail it to the cashier with blinders on, get the lion's share cashed out and then return to play ... usually rather boldly if not foolishly ... that's the part that I really let myself have fun with: and I'll either hit it really big or end up giving that part back. If I hit really big then start the process over as just described.

in that case scenario ... I would be your worst nightmare signed up as a wagershare yet I'd be just fine under rev share.

 

[Engineer]

This month, I'm seeing signs of life with Rockbet and Sloto'Cash. In recent months, 400 Affiliates and Sloto'Cash have done okay.

Rival earnings still pale in comparison to what I earn with RTG and Microgaming, though.

These days, when I see a large first deposit at a Rival casino, I worry that the player will be banned for some reason.

Actually I just looked at my Sloto'Cash and Rockbet accounts, and this very thing happened Saturday and Sunday, respectively! At Rockbet, "Lucy" was suspended after an initial deposit of $835 and a second deposit of $166, and at Sloto'Cash, "Teresa" was suspended after an initial deposit of $186. Meanwhile, over at my RTG casinos, I regularly see initial deposits over $100, and players there are hardly ever banned.

I don't know, maybe there is fraud involved or something, but the fact is, I see players banned at Rival casinos much more frequently than I do anywhere else. :emoticon-0101-sadsm

 

[Guard Dog]

Well, I got a player at 400Affiliates who deposited a decent amount just now. I'll let everyone know if the player gets banned.

Hopefully not - I do trust Rival more than most the others out there.

 

[bonusgeek]

I just ran some reports for 2009 and it looks like I am making more "per click" at Lion Slots than any other rival. I have also been pretty happy with pantasia, I landed a high roller there last year who went off $50K in 4 months, so when I see a player like that in my stats for more than one month I know I am dealing with an honest program.

This is my list for 2009 in order of highest revenue generated per click.

#1. Lion Slots
#2. Pantasia
#3. Slotocash
#4. Superior
#5. 400aff

All in all Rivals aren't too bad for me, definitely worth what little effort I give them but my focus remains with the trusted rtg programs that continue to do well for me.

 

[dendrite]

Just took a look back over a long time period at my Rival figures.

My top 20 players:
10 are still there
6 are suspended
4 are band
(50% band or suspended)


My next best 100 players:
91 still there
8 suspended
1 band
(9% band or suspended)


I definitely don't see these high drop-out rates for my best players at Microgaming

Don't really get the in-depth player information to see how the RTGs perform on a player by player basis, but just from looking it seems the good players don't get band very often

My guess is that they are simply a lot stricter than the other programs