Your best performing Playtech affiliate?

Casino-Matt

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So guys and girls,

I know a few of you still promote Playtech casinos (full up to date list). So which ones actually convert well for you still?
They are by far our worst performing brand but we still wish to offer our readers the best choices possible.

Who's hot and who's not?

Current Top 3
  1. N1 Bet
  2. BetSomnia
  3. Joo

Cheers!
 
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Kasino

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People say that the best from Playtech at the moment is "Focal Click"!

IMO, currently there are no such programs.
 

KasinoKing

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Your best performing Playtech affiliate?
Simple - None of them!

Playtech have historically converted like crap for me for as long as I can remember.
Last year Playtech-based sites made up 1.3% of my total affiliate earnings - and half of that was actually generated from SPORTS betting at Bet365!

For what it's worth (not much!), Focal Click were best, and I got tiny amounts from Genting & Gala.

KK
 

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Cheers KK.

Gala are ok but I don't really bracket them as a Playtech casino.

Anyone any good theories as to why they are not coming up with the goods?

Saturated market?
Crap product development?
Theiving affiliates?

Clearly they still have customers but I do think they are being left well behind the competition.
 

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Myself, like I'm sure others too, were led to believe the old owners of African Palace had sold up.

Given my market is AU and NZ, Grand Reef was insane from Oct 2011 through to early 2013. I had two accounts and between them was pushing through 100+ new depositors a month. Now well... only 1 or 2 of those 2,000+ players are still sperodically playing. However when the same excuses started and delayed (or no) payments of winnings, the stark reality kicked in...enough said.

As far as Focal Click, I don't work with them but I've known Elliott for more years than I care to remember.
Reiterating another of my posts from another thread, he's one of the goood guys. He's honest and a straight shooter ;)

With regard to Playtech as a software platform, I've always liked it.
However these days it's lacking creativity with its slots. Trying to compete with the likes of NetEnt etc, well we know who the crowd draws.

In so far as operators, more often than not Playtech casinos, like RTG casinos, have a history of hit and miss.

Add in the fact players can gamble at casinos with mutliple platforms and get paid within 2 - 3 hours usually, if not quicker, it's a no brainer. Who's going to jump hoops and be stuffed around when you can play some place else and not go through all the drama and possible disapointment!

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Like it or not but our industry is going through changes. What we once had as being relatively hands free of interference, will before too long be regulated to the hilt. The one thing I'm happy about is that clips joints will go down the gurgler.
 
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Thank you for the information. To go from 2,000+ depositing players to 1 or 2 is alarming.

What is the explanation for this?


Given my market is AU and NZ, Grand Reef was insane from Oct 2011 through to early 2013. I had two accounts and between them was pushing through 100+ new depositors a month. Now well... only 1 or 2 of those 2,000+ players are still sperodically playing. However when the same excuses started and delayed (or no) payments of winnings, the stark reality kicked in...enough said.
 

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I promoted Winner Casino and Casino.com awhile back. Both brands underperformed compared to any Microgaming casino.

With Winner Casino I actually had a good conversion ratio but it was very rare for a player to stick around for more than 3 months. So I dropped them.

With Casino.com, I had a good signup ratio. Players were attracted to the $3,200 Free bonus they used to have. But they seldom deposited. I would say GoWild, Roxy Palace and 32red had a x2 better signup to deposit ratio. So I had to drop them. But, if they add Microgaming I will give them another go.
 

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europartners is my most profitable Playtech sponsor, but the negative carryover has meant that I haven't been paid for well over a year now. It's a very big NCO. The most trustworthy Playtech prgram is focalclick.
 

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Cheers KK.

Gala are ok but I don't really bracket them as a Playtech casino.

Anyone any good theories as to why they are not coming up with the goods?

Saturated market?
Crap product development?
Theiving affiliates?.
My theory - based totally on speculation and my own experiences:
The Playtech brand as a whole has a very poor reputation online, due to...
1 .Crazy High wagering requirements on their bonuses, which are also usually Phantom (i.e. Crap)
2. Most Playtechs reserving the right to basically STEAL from players by not paying out Progressive Jackpots in one lump sum.
3. Most asking players to jump through multiple hoops to verify their accounts, including getting notorised documents (at considerable expense) and asking that they be POSTED to the Philippines... :eek:
4. Even when verified, cash-outs are slow and big ones are deliberately drawn out.
5. The number of known ROGUE operators.
6. Yes - definitely thieving affiliate programs. I am convinced that I was being shaved and ripped-off by more than one Playtech operator :(

The games themselves I would say are GREAT!
They have some very good slots, including all those Marvel themed ones. As a player myself, I really enjoy playing them.
The only reason that I don't play Playtech much, is that no casino I've joined offers me any DECENT match bonuses.
The only time I play is when I'm frittering away my affiliate earning at Bet365 - which is not very often!

KK
 

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europartners is my most profitable Playtech sponsor, but the negative carryover has meant that I haven't been paid for well over a year now. It's a very big NCO. The most trustworthy Playtech prgram is focalclick.
I just recently started promoting EuroPartners again and I'm already in in the red. Just a coincidence?

In my opinion Focalclick is no better than the rest. Just because you respect the aff manager doesn't mean that the casino manager is also respectable. It's the casino manager who has the ability to untag your players.
 
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