Black Hat SEO dominating in the SERPs, take action please!

[slotplayer]

I no longer pay Adwords and still get listed in to Google Shopping.

When I first did the Amazon store in 2012 I used their built-in listing editor, then I decided to switch to CSV listing feeds and I noticed the listings were appearing in Google Shopping and on comparision sites like pricegrabber, so either Amazon is paying for Adwords ppc or the CSV feeds are getting picked up whereas I never recalled seeing the listings made with the Amazon built-in editor.

At that time I also noticed eBay listings appearing in Google Shopping, so at the end of March start of April this year I spend quite a bit of time learning eBay File Exchange which is what is use to create CSV listings, sure enough shortly after I uploaded the eBay listings and typed a kw in Google Shopping did my eBay listings appear.

 

[Ukjeff]

Same black hatters again back in G news for search "USA slots" + many more search terms returned, once again same old aff programs featured in his hacked page from grandstandgazette.com. What i do find interesting is i thought affactive were going to can this guy from there post #25 this thread? LOL !

"Hi,
just saw this post and want to make clear that we are taking the proper measures regarding this affiliate"
clara.affactive, Mar 26, 2014

 

[LottoRevenues]

Google changed it's policy a while back that "exact match domains" won't be as relevant and strong as in the past.
it's a famous announcement from google itself.

they'd rather promote brands than domains with exact match domains.

 

[slotplayer]

I'm seeing a bunch of backlinks from m dot biz on 2 of my sites so far, it appears to be an asian directory of some kind. I disvowed them on one site but see there are more today. I guess I'll have to do it for the tld.

Anyone else seening any of these in GWMT?

 

[clara.affactive]

Same black hatters again back in G news for search "USA slots" + many more search terms returned, once again same old aff programs featured in his hacked page from grandstandgazette.com. What i do find interesting is i thought affactive were going to can this guy from there post #25 this thread? LOL !

"Hi,
just saw this post and want to make clear that we are taking the proper measures regarding this affiliate"
clara.affactive, Mar 26, 2014

Hi,

as mentioned on my previous post, we closed all the accounts that were promoting our brands by Black Hat SEO and affecting other websites. Every single complaint we receive is taken in consideration.

On the other hand, we cannot control what the affiliate do afterwards and as you can understand, we are not Google to ban the person from the search engines. We are trying to do our part but besides closing the account, we cant do more.

 

[Vladi]

It's nice that you got all that free traffic from the spammers though, and now you don't have to pay any commission on it, isn't it?

 

[clara.affactive]

Hi Vladi,


to make a statement like that is superficial and lacking any background or common sense. If you think we enjoy receiving complaints from our partners about bad practices and have to close accounts due to this, you are mistaken.

Best regards,

 

[AussieDave]

It's nice that you got all that free traffic from the spammers though, and now you don't have to pay any commission on it, isn't it?

If you think we enjoy receiving complaints from our partners about bad practices and have to close accounts due to this, you are mistaken.

Being met with a statement like that is confronting, though, Valdi does make an obvious conclusion. Unless the proceeds of those closed accounts are being donated to a charity(s), then affactive casinos will prosper from these spammers. That is free traffic and free players who, under bona fide marketing, would likely have been signed up through a legit affiliate(s).

 

[clara.affactive]

You are not seeing the downside of this... the analysis is absolutely superficial and with no information. You can think that the companies profit out of this, but you can imagine that is not the case, for example, when your own partners are pissed off because of black hat issues. The free traffic is not really "free" after all.

Besides of that, these accounts are closed as soon as we find them or get reported.

 

[AussieDave]

I'm seeing a bunch of backlinks from m dot biz on 2 of my sites so far, it appears to be an asian directory of some kind. I disvowed them on one site but see there are more today. I guess I'll have to do it for the tld.

Anyone else seening any of these in GWMT?

I've given up trying to wrangle all this negative seo cr#p. I spent close to a week, on multiple sites, submitting disavow files. Only to find another bunch of new bad-links pointing back to them, a few weeks later. Reiterating, Google shouldn't have a method in their alog which allows anyone to throw negative seo onto another persons site. I like other legit webmasters shouldn't have to battle this crap and inturn watch our hard work be distroyed by dodgy scum bags!

 

[AussieDave]

You are not seeing the downside of this... the analysis is absolutely superficial and with no information. You can think that the companies profit out of this, but you can imagine that is not the case, for example, when your own partners are pissed off because of black hat issues. The free traffic is not really "free" after all.

Besides of that, these accounts are closed as soon as we find them or get reported.

That maybe so but it still doesn't address the matter of who receives the players and where the money goes from these closed accounts. I'm simply playing the Devil's Advocate here

 

[muffincrumbs]

You are not seeing the downside of this... the analysis is absolutely superficial and with no information. You can think that the companies profit out of this, but you can imagine that is not the case, for example, when your own partners are pissed off because of black hat issues. The free traffic is not really "free" after all.

Besides of that, these accounts are closed as soon as we find them or get reported.

I can only imagine. I know that my friends in the industry took down your sites during that time and it is something I would not want to happen to my program if I owned one. Besides long tail converts better and they can only spam big keywords for a very short time.

I've given up trying to wrangle all this negative seo cr#p. I spent close to a week, on multiple sites, submitting disavow files. Only to find another bunch of new bad-links pointing back to them, a few weeks later. Reiterating, Google shouldn't have a method in their alog which allows anyone to throw negative seo onto another persons site. I like other legit webmasters shouldn't have to battle this crap and inturn watch our hard work be distroyed by dodgy scum bags!

The negative stuff is totally out of hand. Remember if we can prove that it is someone here most of us will take action. But that doesn't help. Check out link reaserach tools (Google it) it is expensive but generates disavow fast and under your complete control.

I like it's feature of how it decides if a link is healthy or not by anzalizing all of the standard stuff (pa, da, trust flow) and adds other proprietary values to them. Then it figures out the networks associated with those links to give a larger picture. When backing out three tier and reanalizing many find that are not in a unique subnet.

 

[falseadoom]

There is quite a large number of joomla typo3 hacked sites out there. Looking at it closer I found that the link to one of the casinos was a special promotion and
I did bring this to attention of the affiliate program and they removed that casino, but the amount of hacked joomla sites increases daily.. Urls like


europaws.org/?p=no-deposit-casino-bonus
ecoblock.com.br/?p=no-deposit-casino
lions-clubs.ro/?p=online-casino-no-deposit-bonus
deutschland.de/no-deposit-online-casinos/
effect-pro.com/?p=no-deposit-casino-bonus
brandweekistanbul.com/?p=no-deposit-casino

images show the search result, landing page and then the casinos landing page. They also use geo targeting on these landing pages to display different results depending on your location.

 

[muffincrumbs]

Smart little buggers...

 

[AussieDave]

They also use geo targeting on these landing pages to display different results depending on your location.

You might want to edit out (unlink) those url's

There was speculation by webzcas if I recall last year here, about a couple of MGS casino groups using blackhat and even being in cahoots with these hacked sites. If I had the time, I'd find that thread. Point is, with the morjority of these hacks, they redirect to custom landing pages, which, you have to request acceptence to from your AM, in most cases. Now either these AM's are not vetoing who gets these pages or... as I said their in cahoots with the hackers. It's either one or the other. If their not vetoing who gets what, then they are doing all their legit partners a disservice. If it's the later then we're all get screwed!

 

[muffincrumbs]

You might want to edit out (unlink) those url's

It's either one or the other. If their not vetoing who gets what, then they are doing all their legit partners a disservice. If it's the later then we're all get screwed!

Well said sir. Its great to be on the receiving end of the poking stick. The good guys are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't with this. Fact is the only financial loss comes down to the honest affiliate.

But indirectly we then do not promote those sites as hard and they lose that traffic from us making them more apt to "allow" blackhatters, or to just black hat their own damn casinos with a made up aff. ID haha.

I fear we may never know the truth because the evidence is near impossible to lead back to the culprits.

 

[falseadoom]

You might want to edit out (unlink) those url's

There was speculation by webzcas if I recall last year here, about a couple of MGS casino groups using blackhat and even being in cahoots with these hacked sites. If I had the time, I'd find that thread. Point is, with the morjority of these hacks, they redirect to custom landing pages, which, you have to request acceptence to from your AM, in most cases. Now either these AM's are not vetoing who gets these pages or... as I said their in cahoots with the hackers. It's either one or the other. If their not vetoing who gets what, then they are doing all their legit partners a disservice. If it's the later then we're all get screwed!

Well the custom landing page was taken off after AM was notified. They removed that casino from list of sites they were promoting on hacked pages.

 

[LandofOz]

My sites have taken a pounding in the serps thanks to the black hat sites. It's very frustrating, but black hat rankings never last.

 

[Online18Casino]

^ trust me I know how you feel.. It seems to be lasting longer.. or if its resolved something else just pops up.. I am waiting for the update that resolve this but its been a few months now.

 

[slotsaff]

Its' incredible how many sites are using blackhat tactics and ranking very high up for big keywords - so much for content eh!