Breaking News! Microgaming Brands Move US Players To New Software!

[Daera]

2) This is a brand new initiative where MG have licenced their games to another software provider who are prepared to take on US players. They are called "Betware", based in Iceland and have been around for years, mainly doing lotteries.

3) I doubt the brand name games under licence such as Hellboy, Osbournes and Tombraider II will go to Betware as it's likely the licensing agreement between MG and the brand name owners would preclude sub-licensing. maybe in time that will change.

Hi Simmo,

After I read the posts at CM about Betware, I asked 2 different MGS affiliate programs if Betware was connected. Both replied stating Betware was not part of this move of the U.S. players. I was told "Betware is not the company…its just a timing coincidence".

What do you think?

 

[Simmo!]

Hi Simmo,

After I read the posts at CM about Betware, I asked 2 different MGS affiliate programs if Betware was connected. Both replied stating Betware was not part of this move of the U.S. players. I was told "Betware is not the company…its just a timing coincidence".

What do you think?

Intriguing. Not sure what to think. I do know that yesterday I asked 4 aff managers what the software was called and none of them knew LOL. Does seem a bit much of a coincidence that MG did a PR today talking about Betware though. betware do have their own Cerbus games platform - maybe it's that,, but on an initial look I'd be surprised because what players are seeing is effectively a re-skinned MG.

 

[Vladi]

1) It's not an RTG deal. That is a separate initiative that some casinos have followed, doing deals with RTG's like Jackpot Capital for example to refer existing US traffic - with Microsoft's blessing one would assume.

I know about that and know the difference. I am trying not to reveal my source here but I will say that one of the affiliate managers who told me MGS is working with RTG on this works for an affiliate program that is basically owned by MGS itself.

They specifically cited RTG's expertise in handling U.S. players and related transactions as a benefit. This is not about MGS complying with UIGEA regulations, it is all about getting around them so they can start accepting new U.S. players again regardless of the legal situation.

After I read the posts at CM about Betware, I asked 2 different MGS affiliate programs if Betware was connected. Both replied stating Betware was not part of this move of the U.S. players. I was told "Betware is not the company…its just a timing coincidence".

Interesting.

Its all very cloak and dagger. The main thing I want to know is when are they going to start accepting new U.S. players?

 

[arkyt]

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How can they say your percentage commission remains the same yet in the next few lines say that they take 15% off the top before its figured and that you will get 2.5% less? Obviously the first sentence is complete BS! I hope the other groups aren't looking to dip as well!

 

[bb1webs]

I guess my mass-emailing telling everyone about what i knew about this was old news to some.

I figured it would be but also knew of a couple of people who were probably more worried before this news, than after.

It is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.


It is hard not to have a cynical attitude about anything to do with MGS right now because they've been so protective of affs (the people who bring all them players) with the same passion as a dog might show a stray cat.

Its really frustrating because for such a long time I thought MGS recognized the value affs bring to the table, but now its obvious we're not given much of a second thought (based on their inactions concerning GP), which ironically enough, since GP left them anyway, they should have stepped up because then they'd have at least kept our confidence.

I trust programs like Casino Rewards to do the best they can for me. I don't have a lot of trust in MGS caring what happens to me.

...........


the RTG connection is something that i think was devised by individual programs who probably were as unsure about what would happen come June, as anybody.

so they planned for the worst, hoped for the best, and that involved RTG casinos.

But I doubt MGS itself, has tied itself with RTG. But that's just a personal feeling.

 

[arkyt]

Brightshare sent something out over the weekend ... I guess today all players will login to find themselves at a new casino - what a shock it will be.

We would like to take this opportunity to update you regarding our US market activities.

While the Jackpot Factory Group has not been open to new players residing in the US for some time now, as of May 24th, the JF Casinos will no longer be open to its existing players from the US. Likewise, BrightShare will no longer be providing the support or reporting and payment services covering your US players.

A new brand "All Slots USA" will be providing a casino platform to existing JF US resident players. This will allow you to continue earning and receiving revenue share payments, according to your existing contract, on your current US player database.

We'll be doing everything we can to conduct a smooth migration. We have agreed with All Slots USA Affiliate Program that a high level of reporting transparency, support and payment accuracy will be provided.

If you have any specific questions regarding All Slots USA Affiliate Program, please contact Janet Edwards at All Slots USA Affiliate Program at affiliates@allslotsusa.com.

Please let us know if you have any questions from our side.

Regards,
The Brightshare Team

I have not been contacted by AllSlotsUSA so I have no way of checking stats at this time. Anyone else?

Smooth migration?

I have a funny gut feeling about this entire migration thing ...:emoticon-0127-lipss

 

[greek39]

Similar from Intertops,

The players of Royal Joker Casino based in the United States will be transferred to the upcoming but not yet live, All Slots USA Casino, which will take place later on this week.

Class A domains for allslotsusa dot com

http://www.robtex.com/dns/free-casino-software.com.html#sharedfree-casino-software dot com
pixserv.spinsclick dot com

I suppose we will hear from someone soon.

greek39

 

[arkyt]

The owners of All Slots USA are Aquacube Limited, 1 Mapp Street, Belize City, Belize, BZ.

I have been told that stats will not be accessible by affiliates, but will be sent to us via email. Hmmmmmm - need to get on the horn with Janet soon.

AND heres a serious question --- was my payment information provided to this other entity? I sure hope not!

 

[Guard Dog]

The owners of All Slots USA are Aquacube Limited, 1 Mapp Street, Belize City, Belize, BZ.

I have been told that stats will not be accessible by affiliates, but will be sent to us via email. Hmmmmmm - need to get on the horn with Janet soon.

AND heres a serious question --- was my payment information provided to this other entity? I sure hope not!

This is seriously messed up. We will only get stats by email??? Seriously? Technology is a little easier than this these days.

 

[arkyt]

Janet told me "For the time being, you will be receiving stats reports by email directly from me."

I wonder how long this has been in the works? Its starting to come across like this has all been tossed together in the last few weeks - very little planning and time to set things up properly!

That funny gut feeling far surpasses the GP magnitude - I hope the xenophobic / speculation has me way off base.

 

[greek39]

Almost to much of a risk to be in this game full time. I might switch to a more rewarding industry. Can't keep pace and feel I am wasting valuable resources with constant changes.

I need something a tad more stable so maybe I may sell out?

greek39

 

[arkyt]

I need something a tad more stable so maybe I may sell out?

All my domains / content / accounts and all ... what do you say 5.5 million - any takers? ;D

 

[greek39]

All my domains / content / accounts and all ... what do you say 5.5 million - any takers? ;D

If moniker does the deal all my stuff should be worth at least 5.5 million lol.

greek39

 

[lots0]

Almost to much of a risk to be in this game full time. I might switch to a more rewarding industry. Can't keep pace and feel I am wasting valuable resources with constant changes.

I need something a tad more stable so maybe I may sell out?

greek39

Ahhh come on greek... thats what makes this biz so much F***ing fun... :emoticon-0179-headb

 

[greek39]

Ahhh come on greek... thats what makes this biz so much F***ing fun... :emoticon-0179-headb

I agree it certainly adds to the excitement of not knowing. To add I checked out 32red dot com over the weekend. Considering adding them but then i ran into this.

Trojan.ADH threat level pretty low. I know they are a solid program but now I will spent a week playing email tag.

I hope this stuff gets straightened out soon.

greek39

 

[arkyt]

Heard back on a few items ...

-We are expecting to have the stats platform ready very soon.

- Currently we will not accept new players from US but rather will support your existing players only.

IF they decide to never accept new players - the party for USA / MGS is over. I wonder how long before they start promoting to those players behind the scenes and moving them back over to MGS down the road without giving affiliates credit?

This is going to cause a lot of affiliates (least me) some serious stress!

 

[lots0]

I wish I knew what these managers/owners are thinking.

I know this has to do with everyone expecting STRICT regulation to come to the US.

If these owners think they can cover up the last 15 years history by a few fast corperate slight of hand switches now, I think they are sadly mistaken.

 

[arkyt]

As I pointed out a few post ago, All Slots USA is owned by Aquacube Limited located in Central America - 1 Mapp Street, Belize City, Belize, BZ

I havent yet found a lot of info about Aquacube Limited. Looking at the domain allslotsusa, alljackpotsusa, wildjackusa - all registered by the same individual

owner-organization: SEO
owner-name: Kevin Green
owner-street: Flushing 71 151 st
owner-city: Queens
owner-state: New York

Owner SEO ??? HUH? Search Engine Optmization?

Looking at Allslotsusa.com > Concierge - 24/7 Support | All Slots USA

FREE casino software? WHAT?

Free-casino-software >

Registrant:
Spinspark
Royal Trust House
60 Athol Street
Douglas, Isle of Man IM1 1JD

Spinspark?

Spinspark and SEO ... >spinspark - Google Search

Looking at the SERPS and registrants a lot of those domains are registered BY - Spinspark and/or a person in Israel - where Brightshare and many other affiliate programs are located.

What is really going on here? Are they looking to cut out affiliates or is this just speculation getting the best of me? All that above doesnt look too good on the surface!

 

[slotplayer]

I did a whois earlier on that allslotsusa domain and couldn't find much on
Kevin Green. 71 151 looks like a park to me ;D

 

[greek39]

Hey Arkyt,

Did this sloppy, but searched for all Online Gaming operations coming out of Belize. For some reason mentorgaming dot com
and Bwin got stuck in my head. Honestly I don't know why?

Likely nothing but mentor gaming shares owners from Belize and Israel.

I wonder how long before they start promoting to those players behind the scenes and moving them back over to MGS down the road without giving affiliates credit?

Very plausible and possible why waste huge amount U.S traffic when you can sell it, again speculating. And most carry some form MGS properties. The U.S vistor is simply redirected from the thousands of affilaite sites without anyone knowing any different. Could make someone pretty well off over night.

greek39