King Billy admin fee

[AidanLCFC]

Just read my email from them, admin fee applied now of 35%. Can only assume AGD will be binning them down to rogue? I will be removing them

 

[Kadabra]

Well, you know they had 25% before. Although i don't like it at all, not sure it's enough reason to remove them if they were performing well for you till now.

 

[AussieDave]

These Admin Fees are a scam. And, the cheek to charge 35%, is a blatant rip-off.

Take it from someone who has been a casino affiliate for 20 years.... Admin Fees were NEVER, EVER an issue. They never, ever, existed.

Some crooked thieving bastard(s) devised this plan, to charge affiliates a Admin Fee, to steal rightful commissions. Very few affiliates protested against these Outlaw Charges, and now, practically every program uses this scam to steal YOUR/MY rightful commission/s.

No point bitching about these fees now.

Where were people when I and others NEEDED your support, to fight against, these bogus fees???!!!

 

[AidanLCFC]

Where were people when I and others NEEDED your support, to fight against, these bogus fees???!!!

i wasn't in the industry when they started to crop up, I was already having a 2 year break

 

[Insider]

King Billy isn't our partner so i can only say something about admin fee. In this regard i don't know how they are performing.

I understand that there are costs and correct is also that 20 years ago no admin fees. This is happen in the past years.

The best example is VS and it's pure madness to see how much they deduct. Of course there is still a little bit left but it is not fair across us partners.

It's hard to decide whether you will work with or not. If you have earnings every month of one of these casinos or companies you will think about ten times to remove or not. Especially in this times.

Some colleagues maybe could afford to forego and remove it but some of us can't do.

Unfortunately, greed and audacity sometimes let people think about and implement such rules.

I'm also not amused how all of you but we will not change it. If they don't show us public, they will do it somewhere hidden.

But i am absolutely in favor of drawing attention to it so that potential partners know immediately what they are getting into or to stay better away from.

Where were people when I and others NEEDED your support, to fight against, these bogus fees???!!!

I don't know when the fight begun but i was also not there to support in any way.

 

[AussieDave]

I use the following quote from Aristotle on doch.news, because to me it's exactly how some programs operate.

At his best, man is the noblest of animals; separated from law and justice he is the worse - Aristotle

In case you don't know who Aristotle was... Aristotle was a Greek philosopher and polymath during the Classical period in Ancient Greece. Taught by Plato, he was the founder of the Lyceum, the Peripatetic school of philosophy, and the Aristotelian tradition.

Born: 384 BC, Stagira, Greece
Died: 322 BC, Chalcis, Greece

The lying, cheating and criminal activities we, as affiliates, are subjected to, is the same greed and unethical acts cast of people 2300+ years ago.

You can't stamp out, or totally eradicate it.

However, you can act, and speak out about it when you see it happening.

The GPWA has Chilli Partners as their newest sponsor. Chilli has a 35% Admin Fee. The affiliate program manager, tries to justify this bogus/fake fee, with a load of BS. I of course added my 2 cents:

hxxps://www.gpwa.org/forum/welcome-chilli-partners-new-silver-sponsor-255730.html#post947659 (replace xx with tt)

It's appalling, the GPWA, who, is supposed to be a gambling affiliate association, gladly accepts 'blood money' from Chilli Partners, or any affiliate program who deducts Admin Fees, Player Quotas, or any other FU clause/term, to steal the rightful earnings of affiliate partners.

Same deal, and same thoughts are mine about King Billie.

 

[ddm]

Just read my email from them, admin fee applied now of 35%. Can only assume AGD will be binning them down to rogue? I will be removing them

wow. that's the most insane moneygrab i have seen in a while [aside from some companies charging flat 5% fees on btc deposits and w/drawals]

 

[Ruslan King Billy]

Hi Ddm,

I think you have never visited that page, please, have a look: https://www.affiliateguarddog.com/c...all-about-summary-of-agd-audit-results.11089/

And, reply back in the thread what is the most insane moneygrab...

 

[AidanLCFC]

Hi Ddm,

I think you have never visited that page, please, have a look: https://www.affiliateguarddog.com/c...all-about-summary-of-agd-audit-results.11089/

And, reply back in the thread what is the most insane moneygrab...

interesting way to look at you having a 35% admin fee. i will no longer be working with you

 

[Biti]

Hi Ddm,

I think you have never visited that page, please, have a look: https://www.affiliateguarddog.com/c...all-about-summary-of-agd-audit-results.11089/

And, reply back in the thread what is the most insane moneygrab...

That 75% will be now 65%. Seems we're going back to the old levels of King Billy, which were under 50%.

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

Here is King Billy's "solution":

===> https://www.affiliateguarddog.com/c...y-affiliates-t-cs-update-new-admin-fee.16516/

Post #3 - "The Fix is in"

The slide rule have been taken out of the drawer.

 

[PROFRBcom]

wow. that's the most insane moneygrab i have seen in a while [aside from some companies charging flat 5% fees on btc deposits and w/drawals]

Some sites charge 7%. I know which is charging 9.5% on crypto in/out. It is insane.

That 75% will be now 65%. Seems we're going back to the old levels of King Billy, which were under 50%.

Assuming they did not add any other fees somewhere along the line that they didn't mention.

 

[AussieDave]

Affiliate programs must think we're all dumb, and if we weren't affiliates, we be flipping burgers at Maccas. This must be their opinion of us, because frankly, no one would treat people so badly. Fact is, there is only ever 100%. And, by deducting 35% from GGR, that leave 65% GGR.

By the time royalties, processor fees, and a flurry of other hidden charges are deducted, NGR will be a SAD, Pathetic, pittance.

 

[AussieDave]

Some sites charge 7%. I know which is charging 9.5% on crypto in/out. It is insane.

I got stung by Fastpay Casino for exceeding their withdrawal limit. They happily paid my total winnings, with a nice 10% claw-back fee. In total AU$35K withdrawn to BTC, and hammered with an AU$3,500 fee. If they hadn't charge that 10% I'd likely still be high rolling there each month.

But they chose the shaft me. So, Bitstarz has my play now. No charges for BTC in or out, and best of all, no withdrawal limits. And, no clip-joint like stupid T&C's full of FU clauses. 1x deposit is acceptable, 3x on slots, and 10x of table games is a scam.

 

[PROFRBcom]

Some sites charge 7%. I know which is charging 9.5% on crypto in/out. It is insane.

I was talking about fees for affiliates, charged based on their players deposits and withdrawals.

I got stung by Fastpay Casino for exceeding their withdrawal limit. They happily paid my total winnings, with a nice 10% claw-back fee. In total AU$35K withdrawn to BTC, and hammered with an AU$3,500 fee. If they hadn't charge that 10% I'd likely still be high rolling there each month.

But they chose the shaft me. So, Bitstarz has my play now. No charges for BTC in or out, and best of all, no withdrawal limits. And, no clip-joint like stupid T&C's full of FU clauses. 1x deposit is acceptable, 3x on slots, and 10x of table games is a scam.

These are ridiculous fees for a player depositing and withdrawing with crypto!

 

[Anthony]

i believe that i have only ever come across 2 sites that have ever chargd admin fees in my timeas an affiliate and 35% is enough fore e to not even bother advertising kingbilly anymore because as it already is i was using ads on social media to advertise them and that kind of admin is straight highway robbery. considering the affiliates all go out and find the players to assist thier business for it to becoe a sucess to begin with. sems like they have found thier main player base and this was the easiest way for the to get rid of us. well it definitly worked for me considering this email came up whilst i was in the middle of livestreaming from that casino