[RESOLVED] Retroactive changes at InterPartners (formerly PartnerLogic)

[Engineer]

Everyone,

InterPartners (formerly PartnerLogic) has decided to steal from their affiliates by implementing negative carryover retroactively.

This affects all affiliates -- not just those that signed up under the new InterPartners affiliate program. Even if you signed up in 2005 (like me) when the PartnerLogic policy was "no negative carryover," you are still affected.

Old term:

If Net Casino Revenue is in a negative position that negative amount will NOT be recovered from you and at the beginning of each month any negative position will be set at zero.

New term:

If Net Casino Revenue for a given payment calculation period is a negative amount, that negative amount will NOT be recovered from you but it will be carried over into the following payment period and shall be included as a deduction when calculating Net Casino Revenue in respect of such period.

This is rogue behavior. It's one thing to apply NCO to new affiliates or new players only, but to apply it to an entire player base that may have taken years to build is just wrong. It's theft, pure and simple. This is extremely unethical behavior -- not what I would expect from such a well-known program.

If you promote InterCasino and VIP Casino, I urge you to remove their banners ASAP.

 

[Guard Dog]

It's unbelievable how (formerly respected) programs are making Retroactive, Unethical changes like this and feel they are doing nothing wrong I am VERY disappointed in this group.

 

[slotplayer]

Sorry, I should have mentioned before. I was working with Katy to add some games in mid Nov and saw the nco terms, and decided not to put any more effort in adding the games that I already had.

I also get a js error with logging to view the IA stats there with IE8, not on other programs that use IA, just them. It never really got resolved. Since they had the nco I never really followed up.

I had that same js problem with some Rivals but once they updated the backend the errors disappeared.

 

[DoggyStyle]

Last month they had that awesome promo with $1K - and now... crap! I'm really pissed off at the moment.

When did they change it? I never received an email regarding a change of terms!

 

[Bonus Paradise]

I am not a big affiliate with them, but here counts same as I said to Ladbrokes
Will write an announcment and warn my members and visitors about them.
I hiope more affiliates will do so.

 

[Engineer]

Has anyone spoken to Fotis Bachtsevanis at the LAC?

InterPartners is giving away a MacBook Air at the show. This (as well as their trip to the show) is being paid for by stealing commissions from affiliates.

Whoever wins the MacBook Air, please know that it was paid for with stolen money.

 

[Bonus Paradise]

Any word from InterPartners to that by now? Are they keeping that retroactive changes?

 

[Guard Dog]

Any word from InterPartners to that by now? Are they keeping that retroactive changes?

They are keeping them. Fotis and company think they are 'good changes' and that all affiliates were successfully notified. He even said that affiliates debated and approved the changes (their closest affiliates).

 

[Bonus Paradise]

Thanks Andy, will publish warnings tomorrow

 

[Engineer]

Same here -- their review pages will be converted to rogue pages.

I think we also need to keep an eye on this Fotis Bachtsevanis person, since he set all of this into motion. If he ever quits InterPartners and moves to a different casino affiliate program, I will promptly dump the program.

Fotis used to work for Sportingbet, then Ladbrokes, and then he moved to InterPartners. All three have screwed affiliates in major ways.

 

[KasinoKing]

Intercasino was the very FIRST casino I put on my website when I created it back in 2006...
What happened to that once great company?

Generally I don't work with NCO programs - so our 6 year relationship may soon be drawing to a close...

KK

 

[Vladi]

What happened to that once great company?

LOL I was mighty close to buying shares in Cryptologic 4 or 5 years ago. The share price was over $30 then. Since then they have had a succession of management changes, public spats with ex-CEOs, moved the company HQ, and total and utter mismanagement. The share price is now $2.30, but it was below $1.50 the day before the DOJ announcement in December about the legality of online gambling in the US and has traded below $1 before that. Its the best investment decision I never made!

 

[b_fotis]

I think we also need to keep an eye on this Fotis Bachtsevanis person, since he set all of this into motion. If he ever quits InterPartners and moves to a different casino affiliate program, I will promptly dump the program.

Fotis used to work for Sportingbet, then Ladbrokes, and then he moved to InterPartners. All three have screwed affiliates in major ways.

Wow! Thanks for that Dave, very classy!

Let me just clarify for anyone that is interested that a) I had nothing to do with the changes at Ladbrokes or Sportingbet.. in fact I was long gone before any such changes took place, and b) the changes made to the InterPartners T&Cs are not necessarily representative of my opinions, views or convictions, but, they are the company's new policy.

If any of you need to discuss this matter in private you can contact me directly at fotis(at)interpartners(dot)com.

Regards

 

[Guard Dog]

Fotis -

It was very clear in our discussions that you 'believe' what you were telling us about the changes and how there was nothing wrong with them at all. How can you say it doesn't represent your views or convictions when we have it clearly stated that you agree with the changes?

I'm confused.

 

[Bonus Paradise]

Rogue posts have been removed

 

[Engineer]

Nice posts, Bonus Paradise. :emoticon-0148-yes:

I linked to them (and to this thread) from my own rogue pages, which I posted a few minutes ago:

InterCasino Rogue

VIP Casino Rogue

 

[bonustreak]

I think Dave has a lot of class not that this is really about manners is it? This is about your company doing a very predatory move against all affiliates! Your banners and links are coming off Streak Gaming with a quickness, we do not work with thieves or programs that have checks that bounce for that matter.

 

[Bonus Paradise]

Thank you Engineer, linking back to you and to AGD.

 

[bonustreak]

Hmmm wonder if this has anything to do with it?

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Business news | Amaya; Neogames; NetEnt

 

[Perc]

Looks like they didn't like the result of their decision... I just got this email:

Based on a review which included a survey undertaken earlier this year on better understanding the needs of our affiliates we have reviewed our Terms and Conditions. We would like to announce that as of February 2012 there will no longer be negative carry over applied to affiliate commissions.

These changes will be effective immediately i.e. there will be no negative carry over on commissions earned in February 2012 and previous negative balances will be set to zero. Please review the new Terms and Conditions

Side note: There is both a Partnerlogic and Interpartners section of the forums, one is Rogue and the other is Predatory.