Warning!: KTO Affiliates / FortuneLegends !

[Moonlight Cat]

Important information for all affiliates.
The new head of KTO Affiliates / FortuneLegends Affiliates
is Mr. Myron (Miles) the former Head of VideoSlots Affiliates.

This person was involved in large fraud scheme against affiliates. They promis 25%-45% but using hight cost hidden fees. So finaly affiliates get 3%-5%.

Mr. Myron (Miles) think that 3% is absolutely normal commission. After AGD investigation many affiliates was in shock how VideoSlots Partners cheat they.

Now Mr.Myron (Miles) have the new job. Now he is the head of KTO Affiliates / FortuneLegends Affiliates.

They try to recruit new affiliates at GPWA and buy Platimun Sponsorship on GPWA. GPWA Moderator Antony start to remove negative posts about Mr. Myron (Miles) from GPWA.

More information here:
http://www.gpwa.org/forum/contacts_miles-myron-saacks-249504.html

 

[Trollhunter007]

Do the Admin at AGD ever apply these terms

1.0 GENERAL POSTING RULES AND REGULATIONS

1.1 'Flaming' will not be tolerated. 'Flaming' are described as the following actions: insults, belittling, harassment, and any other post that is meant to incite ire/anger (flame) in another person or organization.

1.2 'Name Calling' will not be tolerated. Calling another member or organization a name other than their member name for the purpose of demeaning/belittling is not allowed.

1.3 'Cross Posting' is not allowed. Post in one area of the forums, do not post the same post in multiple areas. Such posts will be removed and it could result in a ban.

1.4 Posting private information such as real names, real addresses, and LinkedIn or other social media URLs in regards to a member or organization is not permitted.

1.5 Berating an affiliate for promoting organizations you *may not* promote will not be tolerated. Suggestions are ok. Explanations on why it would help to promote other organizations are fine. Berating the affiliate(s) will not be tolerated.

 

[Trollhunter007]

1.1 'Flaming' will not be tolerated. 'Flaming' are described as the following actions: insults, belittling, harassment, and any other post that is meant to incite ire/anger (flame) in another person or organization.

1.2 'Name Calling' will not be tolerated. Calling another member or organization a name other than their member name for the purpose of demeaning/bel

 

[Moonlight Cat]

Trollhunter007, is it you Miles? Why you don't use you own name? Afraid questions from affiliates about VideoSlots commission?

 

[Maddog]

Clearly they don't or they would kick these types of posters and keep them out .

So uneccesarry and wrong AGD ?

Follow GPWA lead and stop this

 

[Shay]

2.0 SPAM

1.3 Affiliate Programs - Any affiliate program who posts without the permission of a moderator or administrator prior to going through the certification process will be considered spam.

 

[Kadabra]

Clearly they don't or they would kick these types of posters and keep them out .

So uneccesarry and wrong AGD ?

Follow GPWA lead and stop this

You mean to follow GPWA footsteps and become AM(anagers)GD

I don't see anything that can remotely be called name calling in Monnlight's post and also not really sure about the other things.

In any case: Miles, i don't think you mean any harm, but you do need to understand that your actions have consequences. Instead of you - i would leave the forums for a year or two.

If you indeed build a good program, which is fair and reliable - affiliates will come. As you know, or should know, trust is never gained by words. Do your job, quietly, and you won't need to convince people to trust you.

 

[Moonlight Cat]

Clearly they don't or they would kick these types of posters and keep them out .

So uneccesarry and wrong AGD ?

Follow GPWA lead and stop this

Miles why you create second account? You work in industry 15 years. And you think that people here believe for to 2 new accounts? With "2" and "1' message?

So my friend affiliates, as you see Mr.Miles don't changed. He still try to cheat people, creating fake multi accounts on this forum e.t.c. So you want to work with affiliate program where Head of Affiliates create multi accounts on forums?

 

[Moonlight Cat]

And one more: https://ttr-casino.appspot.com/forum...on-board.4273/

Miles you may send complain here too (link above). I hope you know the owner. His nick name is "TTR". He is the GPWA member too and former VideoSlots top affiliate on RU-traffic. Until he discover that you cheat him. By the way you cheated them twice. First time as affiliate, second time as a player. Send complain to him.He will be happy to talk with you about your VideoSlots affairs.

 

[TTR]

I honestly don't understand well, who will be work with this such a scam guy?

This topic is 100% legal and every aff should see it!

 

[AussieDave]

I loath this situation as much as the next affiliate, who like me, is probably appalled by Miles' lies and assistance at VS to steal commissions from the affiliates he had under-his-charge.

But... KTO have done nothing wrong, here. Given Mile's can't tell the truth to save himself, it's likely KTO got a fed a load of bollocks, and soon (as the GPWA The BoyMitchell pointed out) the his paymasters at KTO will discover the 'real truth' that he as sold them a lemon, and they cut him loose.

By all means other affiliates need to know about Miles' unethical ways in helping VS steal commissions. However, involving KTO in this matter, isn't, in my eyes fair; even if we all know Miles' is posting to the GPWA on KTO's behalf.

Truth be known, Video Slots sacked Miles', because his use-by-date had expired. I'm sure when he started working there he brought in lots of affiliates, because they trusted him. But when those numbers had been absorbed, and VS couldn't use this pasty anymore, they probably sacked him. Karma does bite back!

 

[Moonlight Cat]

But... KTO have done nothing wrong, here.

AussieDave - i understand your point of view.

The problem is, that many operators play against the rules. The change T&C retroactive, they use hidden fees e.t.c. One more time - they play against the rules.

They play against the rules, but they want that we (affiliates) follow the rules.

No! If they play against the rules, we must play against the rules too. Any affiliate managers must to know, if they try to cheat affiliate, the land must be fire under him. And we must do all that such people don't find new job in our industry. Maybe next time other managers think twice before cheat us.

It was be very easy > cheat affiliates > change company > cheat affiliates again > change company > cheat affiliates > change company...

Our responsibility is take care about our business. This is not our fault if the reputation of other company* is under attack. This is Miles responsibility. He know his background and go to new company. They know his background, they know very well who is Miles and hire him. If they give asylum to this person - this is they own descision.

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*to be honest, i am not be surprized if VS and KTO Affiliates have the same owners. Playtech love such tricks very well as an example. Created several companies, but the same people behind it.

This is no our responsobility for investigate this. If they taken this man on board - this is red alert for all affiliates by default.

 

[Guard Dog]

Affiliate programs should be seen and regarded by how they treat affiliates not who they hire.

 

[Moonlight Cat]

Affiliate programs should be seen and regarded by how they treat affiliates not who they hire.

Great point of view. So if affiliate program - cheater change their name, they are good guys again?

Mr.Mr. Myron (Miles) Saacks the former Head of VideoSlots Affiliates. He cheated affiliates. Now he is move to another program and he is good guy again?

KTO Affiliates / FortuneLegends - they don't know who is Mr.Mr. Myron (Miles) Saacks ? They don't know about VideoSlots cheating system? They know all very well.

If you know that person cheat affiliates why you hired it as Head of Affiliates o you brands? Only two cases is possible:

a.) clinical idiotism.
b.) you need somebody who know how to cheat affiliates.

 

[AussieDave]

Affiliate programs should be seen and regarded by how they treat affiliates not who they hire.

If anything, seems KTO have failed to do Due Diligence on a future employee. Adding, any decent and ethical company these days, performs Due Diligence (including background checks) on all future employees.

I find this entire KTO/Miles incident quite bizarre, given affiliates and players of iGaming companies receive demands for KYC, SOW, and other regulatory requirements. Yet, this affiliate program employs a guy, who, in his past employment (Head of Affiliates at Video Slots) was assisting VS to rob their affiliates blind.

Miles has stated himself over at GPWA, that he has 15 years experience as an AM. Hence, and given the removed "stats" were still MIA when Miles took up his position at VS, he knew about these missing-stats, and would also know that paying affiliates between 3 - 5 % was a totally rip off, scam.

I have no pity for Miles, he made his own bed.

As I see it there are only two possible scenarios here:

• When KTO employed Miles, they were not privy to his past indiscretions at VS.
• When KTO employed Miles, they were in full knowledge of his past, and that's why they hired him.

If it's the later... Then KTO should be on everyone's sh#t list.

 

[Kadabra]

I would guess it's the third. They knew who he is but he is not the company owner. So obviously he will play the way the owners guide him.
And i assume the underestimated the high profile Miles kept on the forums (as he is now with multiple posts).

 

[AussieDave]

They knew who he is but he is not the company owner.

Sorry, but that's akin to a bank saying, yes we know our new employee is a thief, but he's good at it, so we've hired him

Anyway, as it stands now, KTO are fully aware of their new Head of Affiliates past legacy. If they continue to keep him employed, then what does that say about their ethics and integrity? Not much imo.

 

[Kadabra]

Don't see it this way in this case. Btw, just to clarify, it's not that i am eager to work with this program. I got their email and ignored for similar reasons.

However, i don't think Miles is the #1 person to blame. I don't mean that he is all perfect but his fault is working for these fellas and not that the money went to him.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. It seems that Miles like too much to socialize on the forums instead of just quietly doing his job. If he went the longer path, he wouldn't attract all that (fully understandable) fury of the affiliates. So now he will have to enjoy what he cooked.

 

[AussieDave]

Everyone is free to express their own opinion on this matter.

BUT...Fact is (remember we have the audit proof) VS systematically lied and cheated affiliates out of their rightful commission earnings. They literally stolen to livelihoods from families.

However, The facts are Miles actively, and knowingly conspired with VS, and continued to assist these crooks, even though he was fully aware of his employer's agenda. Yet, he chose, and continued to work with these criminals.

Martyn Beacon (ex Affiliate Edge), he discovered these bastards were stealing from his affiliates too.
Did he turn a blind eye? No!!!

He challenged this iGaming company's dodgy ethics and lack-of-honest. In the end, he and another staff member left. Why? Because Martyn couldn't continue working for crooks.

Miles had the same choice... but remained under VS employment.

If people want to play the 'blind man' - go walk with the Shepard...

 

[MissExposé]

Maddog and Trollhunter007 are now banned. We checked their IP addresses and we could confirm they all come from the same IP - the one Miles is using too.