What is this all about? (Summary of AGD Audit results)

Guard Dog

Guard Dog
Staff member
Joined
Dec 13, 2006
Messages
11,350
Reaction score
3,179
Over the last 10 years of being an affiliate, we have noticed ever increasing fees and subtractions from our affiliate earnings.

Many of these fees are for good reason with taxes from regulated markets, games licensing etc

But we have found no easy way to compare the affiliate programs and while unchecked they are adding additional fees with many affiliates being none the wiser.

So, we are creating this section to audit the programs by making a small deposit into a casino tracked to an affiliate account we own and then seeing how much we earn.

We will try to do at least one program each week and then add it to our database so our visitors can compare programs easily.

To help this section grow more rapidly we invite our members to do the same and if done in a logical manner we can then add this information to our database and we can all fight this growing trend more effectively.

Results So Far:
Jacked Affiliates: 47.6% - more info
Deck Media: 100% - more info
Honest Partners: 54% - more info
EGO: 47% - more info
Ellmount Gaming: 82.9% - more info
Betting Partners: 80% - more info
PlayAttack: 84.85% - more info
Adrenaline Affiliates: 58.7% - more info; new report: 100% - more info
Emu Partners: 75% - more info
Slotpartners (formerly Omni Slots): 71.9% - more info
bringit Affiliates: 66.3% - more info
Legend Affilaites: 69.7% - more info
Posh Friends: 49.8% - more info; new report: 50% - more info
Superior Share: 100% - more info; new report: 100% - more info
Drake Affiliates: 100% - more info
BigBang Affiliates: 100% - more info
BetCruise Affiliates: 100% - more info
GiG Affilaites: 72.77% - more info
King Billy Affiliates: 49.40% - more info; new report: 75% - more info
Cashmio Affiliates: 63.35% - more info
Vista Gaming Affiliates: 85% - more info
Eldorado Affiliates: 74.25% - more info
PartnerEarnings: *86.48%* - more info
Loki Casino Affiliates: 65% - more info
Casdep Partners: 80.16% - more info
BetVoyager Affiliates: *** - more info
Mainstreet Affiliates: 100% - more info
Trada Affiliates: 100% - more info
Intertops Affiliates: 80% - more info
Ivy Affiliates: 59.93% - more info
ComeOn Connect: 22.75% - more info
440 Affiliates: *** - more info
Wagerjoint: 100% - more info
Conversion Affiliates: 85.70% - more info
Vegas Affiliate Partners: 100% - more info
Videoslots Affiliates: 12.33% - more info
BetChain Affiliates: 100% - more info; new report 90% - more info (13 June 2022)
21.com Partners: 53.76% - more info
Betsson Group Affiliates: 64.90% - more info
MonteCryptos Affiliates: 45% - more info
MuchoVegas Affiliates: 50.39% - more info
N1 Partners: 65% - more info
Wishmaker Partners: 75% - more info
Ultra Partners: 75% - more info
Genesis Affiliates: 66.39% - more info
Branders Partners: 77.4% - more info
Ascensus Affiliates: 74.37% - more info
Online Casino Share: 100% - more info
Game Revenue: 105%* - more info
BetWinner Affiliates: 100% - more info
Playamo Partners: 65% - more info; new audit report 54.79% - more info (3 March 2023)
Wildblaster Affiliates: 50% - more info
BUFF.bet Affiliates: 100% - more info
StakePartners: 73.25% - more info; new report: 46.05% - more info (1 March 2022)
BonkersBet Affiliates: 100% - more info
FastPay Affiliates: 65% - more info; new report: 75% - more info
Twin Affiliates: 59.25% - more info
SlotsVendor Affiliates: 100% - more info
Wild Tornado Affiliates: 75% - more info
Dunder Affiliates: 76.95% - more info
Income Network: 85% - more info; new report: 75% - more info
LVBet Partners: 90% - more info
ZenCasino Affiliate:64.59% - more info
Condor Affiliates: 75% - more info
Top One Partners: 100% - more info
7StarsPartners: *** - more info
Alpha Affiliates: 70% - more info; new report: 70% (24 Jan 2023)
Blueorange Partners: 65% - more info
Affpalace Affiliates: 46.5% - more info
Affilistars: 80% - more info
Ocean Affiliates: 60% - more info; new report: 90% - more info (14 December 2021)
Slotland Affiliates: 85% - more info; new report: 85% - more info (17 Jan 2024)
Mate Affiliates: 70% - more info
7BitPartners: 80% - more info; new report: 99.68% - more info
LiliBet Affiliates: 70.02% - more info
AffDynasty Affiliates: 100% - more info
Casoo Partners: 96.09% - more info
BitStarz Affiliates: 75% - more info
Cleopartacasino Affiliates: 53.06% - more info
Income Partners: 67.5% - more info
iGaming Partners: 78% - more info
GlobalLiveCasino Affiliates: 65% - more info
Bao Casino Affiliates: 50% - more info
Everum Partners: 64% - more info (20 April 2020)
Shadow Affiliates: 48% - more info (26 April 2020)
Mason Slots Affiliates: 56% - more info (04 May 2020)
YoAffiliates: 70% - more info (13 May 2020)
High Affiliates: 31% - more info (22 May 2020); new report: 86,25% - more info (15 June 2020)
TotoGaming Affiliates: *** - more info (29 May 2020); new report: 84,60% - more info (18 June 2020)
Gambler Hunt: 65% - more info (08 June 2020)
BetShah Affiliates: 65% - more info (06 July 2020)
Winner Partner: *** - more info (09 July 2020)
Campeon Partners: 75% - more info (14 July 2020)
Playluck Affiliates: 45% - more info (14 July 2020); new report: 60% - more info (23 April 2021)
SlotWolf Affiliates: 60% - more info (30 July 2020)
TrueFlip Affiliates: 40% - more info (18 August 2020); new report: 27.62% (16 July 2021)
Tau Affiliates: 42% - more info (25 August 2020)
24K Affiliates: 65% - more info (01 September 2020); new report: 100% (5 January 2022)
Chanz Affiliates: 40% - more info (07 September 2020)
Gambling Craft: 80% - more info (15 September 2020)
Eat Sleep Bet Affiliates: 168% and 80% - more info (21 September 2020)
MMC Affiliates/Mad Money Casino Affiliates: 85% - more info (24 September 2020)
Z-Partners: 82% - more info (05 October 2020)
Rhino Affiliates: 70% - more info (06 October 2020)
Heroic Affiliates: 65% - more info (09 October 2020)
Winfest Affiliates: 55% - more info (22 October 2020)
JoinAff: 70% - more info (02 November 2020)
Favbet Affiliates: 100% - more info (02 November 2020)
Galaxy Affiliates: *** - more info (04 November 2020); new audit: 81% - more info (11 November 2020)
1xbit Partners: 90.20% - more info (11 November 2020)
Slotum Partners: 65% - more info (11 November 2020)
Bet It All Affiliates: 100% - more info (23 November 2020)
22Bet Partners: 81.70% - more info (25 November 2020); new audit: 75% - more info (24 May 2022)
BitcoincasinoAff: 75% - more info (30 November 2020)
1xBet Partners: 83% - more info (07 December 2020)
1xSlots Partners: 77.10% - more info (08 December 2020); new audit: 85% - more info (08 December 2020)
Affalliance: 100% - more info (10 December 2020); new audit Affiliates League: 100% - more info (3 October 2023)
Wixstars Affiliates: *** - more info (11 December 2020)
Smile Affiliates: 89% - more info (16 December 2020)
CryptoWild Affiliates: 90% - more info (23 December 2020)
Dasistcasino Affiliates: 65% - more info (04 January 2021)
Betandyou Affiliates: 90% - more info (08 January 2021)
Money Jam Partners / LevelUp Affiliates: 70% - more info (13 January 2021)
SupraBets Affiliates: 80% - more info (25 January 2021)
Unikrn Affiliates: 81.78% - more info (28 January 2021)
Total Affiliates: 100% - more info (4 February 2021)
Doublebet Partners: 73.50% - more info (16 February 2021); new audit: 75.30% - more info (3 November 2023)
Luckyaffs: 100% - more info (22 February 2021)
Betmaster Partners: 60% - more info (26 February 2021)
BigWin Affiliates: 66% - more info (3 March 2021)
Casiplay Affiliates: 100% - more info (7 March 2021)
Rovert Affiliates: 50% - more info (23 March 2021)
BetnSpin Partners: 50% - more info (25 March 2021)
Oshi Affiliates: 65% - more info (30 March 2021)
Propawin Partners: 50% - more info (1 April 2021)
Springbok Affiliates: 100% - more info (9 April 2021)
King Billy Affiliates: 65% - more info (16 April 2021)
Affgoldmine: 100% - more info (26 April 2021)
Wintka Partners: 61% - more info (4 May 2021)
Royal Planet Affiliates: 100% - more info (10 May 2021)
Groupartners: 91.07% - more info (12 May 2021)
Rex Affiliates: 60% - more info (24 May 2021)
Sweetspot Affiliates: 65% - more info (28 May 2021)
BetReels Affiliates: 98% - more info (7 June 2021)
Jim Partners: 48% - more info (11 June 2021)
MaxPartners: 50% - more info (16 June 2021); new audit: 75% - more info (24 August 2021)
Konung Casino Affiliates: 65% - more info (25 June 2021)
Bspin.io Affiliates: 60% - more info (1 July 2021)
Kosmonaut Casino Partners: 80% - more info (12 July 2021)
CasitsuPartners: 78% - more info (26 July 2021)
Trust Dice Affiliates: 70.07% - more info (30 July 2021)
AffRepublic: 60% - more info (5 August 2021)
Pirate Partners: 68% - more info (17 August 2021)
mBitcasino Affiliates: 55% - more info (31 August 2021)
West Affiliates: 44% - more info (06 September 2021)
10Cric Partners: 65.28% - more info (14 September 2021)
Rocketpot Affiliates: 65.72% - more info (20 September 2021)
Jackpot Partners: 100% - more info (27 September 2021)
Hola Partners: 60% - more info (4 October 2021)
VegasRevenue: 100% - more info (8 October 2021)
Buffalo Partners: 94.20% - more info (18 October 2021)
Casinoisy Partners: 50% - more info (25 October 2021)
Brofist Partners: 40% - more info (3 November 2021)
The ClubHouse Affiliates: 60% - more info (9 November 2021)
MioMedia: 40% - more info (15 November 2021), new audit: 70.04% - more info (20 December 2021)
Slototop Affiliates: *** - more info (23 November 2021)
BetSofa Affiliates: *** - more info (30 November 2021); new audit: 70% - more info (6 Dec 2021)
Winz Affiliates: 70% - more info (30 November 2021)
Superboss Partners: 90.49% - more info (23 December 2021)
Paradise Affiliates: 100% - more info (30 December 2021)
Bitdreams Affiliates: 65% - more info (18 January 2022)
PartnerBC: 85% - more info (26 January 2022)
The Blue Partners: 75% - more info (1 February 2022)
StayCasino Partners: 55% - more info (8 February 2022)
Nordis Affiliates: *** more info (15 February 2022)
RushCasino Affiliates: 73.50% - more info (15 February 2022)
Wow Affiliates: 100% - more info (21 February 2022)
BitDice Affiliates: 80% - more info (4 March 2022)
AxeCasino Affiliates: 60% - more info (15 March 2022)
Goldenlady Affiliates: 100% - more info (22 March 2022)
888starz Partners: 56.73% - more info (28 March 2022)
Enlabs Partners: 66% - more info (4 April 2022)
House Edge Affiliates: 83% - more info (11 April 2022)
CzAffiliates: 59.50% - more info (19 April 2022)
Cyber.Bet Affiliates: 100% - more info (26 April 2022)
Boomerang Partners: 30% - more info - Q Platform (29 April 2022); New audit: 30% - more info - Affilka Platform (3 November 2023); New audit: 65% - more info (28 November 2023)
LynxBet Affiliates: 72.80% - more info (10 May 2022)
Enchant Affiliates: 80% - more info (12 May 2022)
Agentsino Affiliates: 100% - more info (31 May 2022)
iWIld Partners: 75% - more info (3 June 2022)
Casino Extreme Affiliates: 100% - more info (21 June 2022)
OhMyGaming Partners: 50% - more info (29 June 2022)
Apex Affiliates: 100% - more info (11 July 2022)
North Affiliates: 70% - more info (18 July 2022)
FoggyStar Partners: 70% - more info (25 July 2022)
Revenue Partners: 65% - more info (27 July 2022)
Chilli Partners: 57.85% - more info (8 Aug 2022); new audit: CELLXPERT 89% - more info (28 April 2023), Affilka 58% - more info (28 April 2023)
Dolcevita Partners: 70% - more info (16 Aug 2022)
1good Partners: *** - more info (23 Aug 2022)
Ditobet Affiliates: 83% - more info (26 Aug 2022)
Bons Partners: 50% - more info (6 September 2022)
AMPM Partners: 61% - more info (12 September 2022)
MyShare Partners: 94% - more info (20 September 2022)
Hyper Casino Affiliates: 70% - more info (27 September 2022)
LB Affiliates: 74.67% - more info (4 October 2022)
Affgold Affiliates: 100% - more info (11 October 2022)
AffMore Affiliates: 50% - more info (17 October 2022)
Partners.casino: 60% - more info (25 October 2022)
Mostbet Partners: 88.00% - more info (2 November 2022)
Crashino Affiliates: 79.92% - more info (8 November 2022)
Arcanebet Affiliates: 75% - more info (14 November 2022)
Your Galaxy Partners: 45% - more info (29 November 2022)
Gaming Point: 60% - more info (2 December 2022)
Royal Partners: 71% - more info (13 December 2022)
Blizz Affiliates: 75% - more info (19 December 2022)
Paripesa Partners: 47% - more info (27 December 2022)
LegendPlay Partners: 50% - more info (4 January 2023)
Dexterbet Partners: 95% - more info (10 January 2023)
Coinsgame Partners: 46.40% - more info (17 January 2023)
Affision: 80% - more info (31 Jan 2023)
V.Partners: 95% - more info (3 February 2023)
Regals Partners: 49.52% - more info (14 February 2023)
Wild Partners: 75.19% - more info (21 February 2023)
Affilirise (Cazimbo Casino): 40.10% - more info (NetRefer) (1 March 2023); Affilirise (Gomblingo Casino): 70% - more info (CELLXPERT) (1 March 2023); New Audit (NetRefer): 70.01% - more info (22 March 2023)
Monkey Partners: 80% - more info (14 Mar 2023)
Zeus Partners: 78% - more info (17 Mar 2023)
Bluechip Partners: 65% - more info (28 Mar 2023)
Friends of Spades Affiliates: 40% - more info (11 April 2023)
Slotimo Affiliates: 60% - more info (25 April 2023)
PowerUp Partners: 75% - more info (9 May 2023)
AffiliatesDiv: 70% - more info (15 May 2023)
Loro Partners: 88% - more info (23 May 2023)
BitSpinCasino Affiliates: 85% - more info (6 June 2023)
Hell Partners: 54.80% - more info (13 June 2023)
BoGamba Club: 75% - more info (20 June 2023)
Boss Partners: 86.05% - more info (23 June 2023)
Affiliate XE: 70% - more info (3 July 2023)
Bit4Win Partners: *** - more info (7 July 2023)
Royspins Partners: 75% - more info (17 July 2023)
Megapari Partners: 67.76% - more info (25 July 2023)
GodBunny Affiliates: 50% - more info (28 July 2023)
BetMaximus Affiliates: 50% - more info (8 August 2023)
DolfWin Affiliates: 100% - more info (15 August 2023)
Wow Partners: 50% - more info (23 August 2023)
Lolobet Partners: 60% - more info (29 August 2023)
InfinityStars Partners: 34.42% - more info (5 September 2023)
Traffic Flow Partners: 70% - more info (12 September 2023)
CatAffs: 30% - more info (19 September 2023)
AllInCasino Affiliates: 32.05% - more info (26 September 2023)
3rdwave Affiliates: 60% - more info (3 October 2023)
Betmen Affiliates: 71.02% - more info (3 October 2023)
Affroller Affiliates: 60% - more info (10 October 2023)
Bruce Affiliates: inconclusive - more info (12 October 2023)
Boho Affiliates: 100% - more info (12 October 2023)
StakeWin Partners: 52% - more info (24 October 2023)
Betssen Partners: 89% - more info (24 October 2023)
P4p Partners: 59.75% - more info (27 October 2023)
Dach Affiliates: 70% - more info (27 October 2023)
Revolution Affiliates: 70% - more info (30 October 2023)
Oxi Partners: 30% - more info (10 November 2023)
Wolfy Affiliates: 60% - more info (14 Nov 2023)
Royal Stars Affiliates: 80% - more info (28 November 2023)
Run4Win Partners: 40% - more info (15 December 2023); new audit: 65% - (19 March 2024)
Casinoempire Partners: 80% - more info (5 January 2024)
Moon Partners: 60% - more info (5 January 2024)
MegaPartners: 65% - more info (17 January 2024)
Del Oro Partners: 70.80% - more info (22 January 2024)
Craze Affiliates: 50% - more info (22 January 2024)
Bloom Affiliates: 72.60% - more info (25 January 2024)
Thrill Partners: 65% - more info (29 January 2024)
PrimeBetz Affiliates: 100% - more info (29 January 2024)
Spades Partners: 65% - more info (6 February 2024)
iSpin Partners: 40% - more info (13 February 2024)
BullsBet Partners: 40% - more info (20 February 2024)
50 Partners: *** - more info (8 March 2024); New audit - (8 March 2024)
Grande Affiliates: 75% - more info (8 March 2024)
24Slots Partners: 60% - more info (26 March 2024)
BlueWin Partners: 65% - more info (26 March 2024)
Ready Affiliates: 75% - more info, *** - more info (2 April 2024)
Kamikaze Affiliates: 75% - more info
Sapphirebet Affiliates: *** - more info (23 Apr 2024)
Shark Partners: 55% - more info (30 Apr 2024)
Cosmobet Partners: *** - more info (14 May 2024); new audit: 45% - (21 May 2024)
Affiliates Bay: 45% - more info (22 May 2024)
MyStake Affiliates: 12.55% - more info (5 June 2024); 75.88% - more info (5 June 2024)\
Airbet Partners: 64% - more info (13 June 2024)
Njord Affiliates: 49% - more info (14 June 2024)
Casombie Partners: 55% - more info (2 July 2024)
VegasLegends Affiliates: 60% - more info (5 July 2024)
Buzz Affiliates: 70% - more info (15 July 2024)
AffiliateKings: 70% - more info (23 July 2024)
GameGrow Partners: 49% - more info (30 July 2024)
PartnersCasa Affiliates: 75% - more info (2 Aug 2024)
Trino Partners: 65% - more info (2 Aug 2024)
Sirwin Affiliates: 0% - more info (20 Aug 2024)
SpinBet Partners: 72% - more info (22 Aug 2024)
JVspinbet Partners: 76.40% - more info (29 Aug 2024)
Touch Affiliates - bonus used: 20% - more info (17 Sep 2024); Audit Without Bonus: 60% - more info (17 Sep 2024)
Awbit Affiliates - 63% - more info (28 October 2024)
Moola Partners - 69.96% - more info (31 October 2024)

AVERAGE AUDIT RESULTS: 0.71%
 
Last edited:

melcb

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 16, 2014
Messages
1,734
Reaction score
743
This is something I think a lot of affiliates will find huge value in. Many affiliate programs are reluctant to provide the exact fees taken to calculate the net revenue. We have asked many programs this information over the years and with very unsatisfactory feedback and reluctance to provide more details on the fees.

This audit should help many affiliates see which programs they need to negotiate and fight for better deals, as 40,45,50% rev share sounds great but in reality and its not really. Hybrid deals may be a better option.
 

LandofOz

Affiliate Guard Dog Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2009
Messages
710
Reaction score
280
This should be really good. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this thread. Perhaps we can also take into account a few other factors and add them to the equation such as cookie duration, affiliate software used, etc
 

Aeternus

Affiliate Guard Dog Member
Joined
May 1, 2016
Messages
51
Reaction score
17
Great news Guard Dog!

The fees are insane at some places so I really look forward to seeing the results of this. I'll bet it will end up in some position shuffeling on more than one site..
 

Frank

Affiliate Guard Dog Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2015
Messages
935
Reaction score
465
Can't wait , especially those that hide deposit amounts to avoid the red flags then claim that affiliates don't need to see deposits, we should just take their word for it.... will bonuses be taken? My only concern is if they modify your affiliate account to show different results to other affiliates?
 

KasinoKing

Player turned affiliate.
Joined
Aug 10, 2009
Messages
3,295
Reaction score
1,469
This is a great idea and long overdue IMO.
I can get this started with a couple...

Now that Videoslots have finally given us what we asked for - by FAR the most transparent reporting of any program I work with - we can now see the full break-down.
This is not nice reading - but at least it's totally honest! ;)
Figures from my last 3 months, averaged - as a percentage of GGR:
J/Pot Deduction . . . . 0.99%
Gaming taxes. . . . . . 6.51%
Bank Fees . . . . . . . . 7.48%
Provider Fees. . . . . . 9.41%
Admin Fee. . . . . . . . 24.76%
Bonus Given . . . . . . 24.55%
Paid Loyalty. . . . . . . 11.39%
Net Gaming Rev . 14.95%
My Commission . . 5.98%

Note: All three months were positive ones - no negative figures.

And here's a VERY simple one: Trada Casino:
Commission = 25% of GGR.

KK
 
Last edited:

Guard Dog

Guard Dog
Staff member
Joined
Dec 13, 2006
Messages
11,350
Reaction score
3,179
Frank, yes bonuses will be taken as is the normal process, you can see in our first audit of Jacked Affiliates

Thanks King, could we do with a real-world example like we have done for Jacked and find the Effective Net Gaming Revenue it is a way to compare them on an even playing field.
 

Shay

Affiliate Guard Dog Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2011
Messages
188
Reaction score
179
I love that you guys are doing this. These are facts that affiliate need. Thank you.
 

KasinoKing

Player turned affiliate.
Joined
Aug 10, 2009
Messages
3,295
Reaction score
1,469
So, we are creating this section to audit the programs by making a small deposit into a casino tracked to an affiliate account we own and then seeing how much we earn.
The only slight problem I see with this method, is that a SMALL deposit may incur disproportionally high transaction fees.
e.g. A casino may charge a flat fee rather than a % of the deposits amount.

KK
 
Last edited:

Engineer

Super Moderator
Joined
Dec 14, 2006
Messages
3,210
Reaction score
400
One way to get good, comparable data would be to deposit roughly the same amount with each test. Always 20, 50, whatever. I see £20 first deposits quite often, so using that amount for the audits seems reasonable.

I'm looking forward to seeing more results -- it should be very interesting. :cool:
 

PaaskeUK

Affiliate Guard Dog Member
Joined
Sep 15, 2010
Messages
415
Reaction score
143
This is great thanks for doing this. Could I maybe add some ideas or suggestions? Or basically what i have going around in my head.

Should all this not be hidden only for members or I mean so affiliate programs can not see or obtain this information? Also maybe it would be good idea if somehow it could be checked and tracked over a much longer perioed etc. (i know this is difficult and would incur much more costs) But if checked over many months or even a year would reflect a much more accurate information as who knows things could change some months and we see strange charges or deductions.

Also my fear is some programs might take advantage and "fiddle" things to make it look better or not deduct everything......

Really hard for me right now to explain what I mean proper hope you get me? :)
 

Frank

Affiliate Guard Dog Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2015
Messages
935
Reaction score
465
Using the formula you stated in the jacked thread... I applied this to Next Casino, Casino Luck.. a real 12% Net comms.. @40% I have been back and forth with the aff manager and they usually just give some vague numbers and quote the terms and conditions... would be great if you could do them next as I see many affs have had problems with them
 

AussieDave

24 years & still going!
Joined
Nov 28, 2013
Messages
5,103
Reaction score
3,606
@Guard Dog - Quick question, it seems since LCB has purchased AGD, your a lot more active, (so too is Engineer).

we are creating this section to audit the programs by making a small deposit into a casino tracked to an affiliate account we own and then seeing how much we earn. We will try to do at least one program each week and then add it to our database so our visitors can compare programs easily.

So are you now an employee of LCB et al?
 

AussieDave

24 years & still going!
Joined
Nov 28, 2013
Messages
5,103
Reaction score
3,606
Net Gaming Rev . 14.95%
My Commission . . 5.98%

The 100% transparency is a moot point now, when, your commission is a piss-poor 5.98% - least it's 1.98% better than the 4% average :D
 

Engineer

Super Moderator
Joined
Dec 14, 2006
Messages
3,210
Reaction score
400
It's kind of like how they recast Dumbledore in the Harry Potter movies -- same lovable character, different actor. :D Andy is still around here as kwblue.

As for me, I just had more free time than I have in recent months. My contributions here have always been voluntary and unpaid.
 
Top