Why the anti-Playtech feel on here?

[Casino-Matt]

Hi Guys,

I have seen it many times that Playtech are not a system to bother promoting.
I am just wondering why so many of you feel this way?

Cheers.

 

[CaseyM]

I think its because of how much people trust Playtech, they have a bad rep, lying, shaving etc, it's not because they don't convert

 

[baldidiot]

I think its because of how much people trust Playtech, they have a bad rep, lying, shaving etc, it's not because they don't convert

FWIW, I've also found conversions at playtech casinos lower than others (MG etc..).

 

[AussieDave]

FWIW, I've also found conversions at playtech casinos lower than others (MG etc..).

I've only worked with a couple of Playtech casinos. Bet365 couldn't even class as pathetic, it was worse than anything. The oither was Grand Reef and that kicked ass. However I think the BIG issue with Playtech casinos, which some affiliates have a problem with, are the Jackpot Payouts. Unlike MGS most Playtech casinos are only paying winnings out in block amount, instead of the entire Jackpot!

Add in the operators who, like most RTG casinos, seem ethically challedged and it adds up to both players and affiliates being shafted.

 

[KasinoKing]

Hi Guys,

I have seen it many times that Playtech are not a system to bother promoting.
I am just wondering why so many of you feel this way?

Cheers.

Though the games themselves are very good, the ethics of Playtech themselves and most of their operators is appallingly bad.
At LEAST 75% of all Playtech casinos are rogue.
My theory is: This paints a bad picture for the ones that are honest and so players tend to steer clear.

Dragging out payments, blatant STEALING of Jackpot Winnings and ridiculous verification demands are the three worst things about them.
You can add to that shaving of affiliates commission and lots more "dodgy" goings on.

Some light reading:
Over $2,000,000 stolen: http://www.casinomeister.com/news/m...LINE-GAMBLING-AND-A-NIGHTMARE-JACKPOT-WIN.php
$5,000,000 "vanishes": http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60027
VERY dodgy behaviour: http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/playtech_progressives.php

KK

 

[3joker]

There are some affiliate programs "tied" to Playtech that are less than honest, like AffUtd, but there are also good programs like Gala and Bet365. Also, I think Playtech has it's roots in Israel where there are many rouge programs and casinos. It seems programs with NetEnt are more reliable from my experience.

 

[footballaffiliate]

Teddy Sagi, the founder of Playtech, jailed for several years for fraud should tell you all you need to know about why you shouldn't trust these guys, or any of the Israeli programs http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Britains-crack-cocaine-gambling-machines.html

 

[footballaffiliate]

There are some affiliate programs "tied" to Playtech that are less than honest, like AffUtd, but there are also good programs like Gala and Bet365. Also, I think Playtech has it's roots in Israel where there are many rouge programs and casinos. It seems programs with NetEnt are more reliable from my experience.

Can back that up. AffUtd turn up to the conferences sponsoring it and having the big stand, celebrities etc, yet they're nice to your face yet robbing your wallet out of your back pocket while you're not looking. Don't trust these aggressive rogues!

 

[Casino-Matt]

Thanks guys, some very interesting reading!

 

[AussieDave]

Teddy Sagi, the founder of Playtech, jailed for several years for fraud should tell you all you need to know about why you shouldn't trust these guys, or any of the Israeli programs http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Britains-crack-cocaine-gambling-machines.html

 

[casinonewbie]

i once shook hands with a Playtech rep from iffiliates (another dodgy Iraeli program) & my expensive Timex watch was gone forever

 

[footballaffiliate]

i once shook hands with a Playtech rep from iffiliates (another dodgy Iraeli program) & my expensive Timex watch was gone forever

iAffiliates - could never work them out really. Their sales pitch is #1 "we're not dodgy, we're not ripping you off, we don't shave accounts", which immediately made me think - you are dodgy, you are shaving, otherwise why would you be SO defensive about it?!

 

[LandofOz]

There are a lot of dodgey Playtech sponsors around. The most TRUSTWORTHY Playtech sponsor imo is Focal Click.

 

[CaseyM]

I can't think of one Playtech that I would 'recommend'

 

[Jason May]

I gave playtech casinos every opportunity in the book to perform and quite frankly they just cant produce like a mg casino. My last effort at casino.com went like this:
1. 60 registrations and the click:registration was very good. But ZERO depositing players.
2. No response from affiliate manager regarding queries and when they did respond it was the typical "I am asking questions re this. I am unaware re this and am finding out"
3. They have a nice mobile casino but it takes way too long to load. Probably lose at least 50% of conversions due to this.
4. I had no choice but to leave.

But in summary, I think Playtech games are very good but the operators and their affiliate programs are terrible.

 

[Casino-Matt]

I gave playtech casinos every opportunity in the book to perform and quite frankly they just cant produce like a mg casino. My last effort at casino.com went like this:
1. 60 registrations and the click:registration was very good. But ZERO depositing players.
2. No response from affiliate manager regarding queries and when they did respond it was the typical "I am asking questions re this. I am unaware re this and am finding out"
3. They have a nice mobile casino but it takes way too long to load. Probably lose at least 50% of conversions due to this.
4. I had no choice but to leave.

But in summary, I think Playtech games are very good but the operators and their affiliate programs are terrible.

Casino.com in general are a bunch of cowboys from my experience. I'd never send a reader to them.
We know that Affiliates United have a very bad reputation and we've certainly been hit by their negative carryover (we'll probably never make a dime from them) but as we rate their casino very highly we are not going to remove their listings as there is a balance to be met between the reader and your own income. Our angle is to be 100% honest and hope that translates into visitors. Ideally every visitor would lose 1000 per month at one casino but win 2000 at another, we could be minus a million at one affiliate but still be making some income... but unfortunately it doesn't really work like that does it!

This is a tough old world!!

 

[KasinoKing]

Our angle is to be 100% honest and hope that translates into visitors. Ideally every visitor would lose 1000 per month at one casino but win 2000 at another, we could be minus a million at one affiliate but still be making some income... but unfortunately it doesn't really work like that does it!

This is a tough old world!!

That's my philosophy too!
As a long-time player myself, I want people to sign-up at 4+ different casinos via my links - lose at half and make good profits at the other half. Then both the player and myself get some cash coming our way. Everyone's happy!

KK

 

[Casino-Matt]

Nice one!
Shame there are so many unethical affiliates out there though. Seriously it is hard enough to win without the terrible advice some people give.
But then again these despicable websites have provided me with tons of content because we can tell people the truth!!!

 

[Moonlight Cat]

I don't trust playtech. Conversion is very low. Reputation is very bad. Also, this Playtech guys is big player on Binary options/CFD market. In Industry that have many problems. For example Market.com e.t.c.

 

[footballaffiliate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Sagi

Teddy Sagi (born 1971) is a London-based Israeli billionaire businessman and former convicted felon.

Sagi received an 18-month prison sentence in 1999 for "grave deceit, bribery and insider trading", after being found guilty of manipulating bond prices in Israel in 1994.