Class1Casino what's going on?!

[grem]

No payments means no promotions for this group.

 

[lojo]

I hope you didn't just figure this out...
I always thought you were on top of things.
...

Maybe I'm a bit naive because I want to believe, but even I must have ulterior motives when I look at everything through cynic lenses so yeah. But the drama is so much more effective when i act surprised. Oscar please!

 

[zoorana]

Fair enough. It's time to clean up house, take it on the chin and move on.

Same here. I'm just done cleaning the house. What a lovely thing to be doing on a Saturday night..

 

[lojo]

Sorry if off topic. But it looks like sometimes (and I hope its the case with Windows) smart minds follow good money. We can debate till the end of time whether these guys (if you are correct and most always are) deserve ANY business based on their past actions. But the other side of that coin is if bad turns good they should be rewarded and held up as a successful example of what can happen when a smart person (whoever that was) influences a crap operation to do right.

Would I promote them if I were an affiliate? Hard to say. I understand your hard line but there might be a lesson here. I don't know the people so I don't have a clue.

Can't believe I missed that...

If you believe that windows casino has changed ownership since 2004 when Mark and Tony Friedman sold out.. you are sadly mistaken.
Yes they put on a 'new' face, but the people that were were running windows casino are still there... Once a Rogue... always a Rogue.

And I used to promote the hell out of windows casino/wager junction... Till I realized that they were shaving and shorting me...

 

[lots0]

Sorry if off topic. But it looks like sometimes (and I hope its the case with Windows) smart minds follow good money. We can debate till the end of time whether these guys (if you are correct and most always are) deserve ANY business based on their past actions. But the other side of that coin is if bad turns good they should be rewarded and held up as a successful example of what can happen when a smart person (whoever that was) influences a crap operation to do right.

Would I promote them if I were an affiliate? Hard to say. I understand your hard line but there might be a lesson here. I don't know the people so I don't have a clue.

LOL... you seem to under the impression that windows/wager junction is 'currently' acting in an honest and upright fashion... You make me grin...

 

[lojo]

LOL... you seem to under the impression that windows/wager junction is 'currently' acting in an honest and upright fashion... You make me grin...

No clue really - I was talking generally.

I would love to know if they aren't.

 

[lojo]

Hey! l0tso grins aren't a dime a dozen folks. i have arrived!
Now let's get busy cleaning house and informing this program that we are speaking about them

 

[lojo]

Next up is rewards affiliates and damn the torpedoes.

 

[ocportal]

I am going to blacklist their casino, who else will be blacklisting class1casino?
Who treats partners this way, won't be different with users.

 

[CygX1]

I am going to blacklist their casino, who else will be blacklisting class1casino?
Who treats partners this way, won't be different with users.

This would have made sense after they did not pay the players already.

 

[ocportal]

I didn't know about such issues, still I think it's better to blacklist them today instead of never.

 

[cassaon888]

KK wrote:

Well, here's the thing. My understanding is that a new team had bought out MaximaCasino and had re-branded as Class1Casino. I was happy to promote them and they seemed to have turned things around. So, as far as I was concerned, this was a new set-up.

Remember the appalling reputation Windows Casino used to have? Rogues, for sure. Well, they were bought out by a new group and WagerJunction are now among the best Playtech outfits out there these days. It can and does happen.

It's all very well getting on your high horse about 'rogue' casinos but your complete lack of empathy with fellow affiliates who are trying to be honest and honourable saddens me. It's not as if every Rival Casino you've promoted has turned out be 100% on the up and up.

Not trying to have a go: my point is this - we all make judgements based on the information we have available to us at the time. Sometimes we're wrong. It happens - it's certainly not a time to accuse people of "promoting rogue casinos".

You hit the nail on the head. Today's so-called reputable programs could be tomorrow's "rogues". Those of us who have been in this industry for many years should know this by now. We all make mistakes and as you pointed out Wagerjunction turned things around and considered to be one of the better Playtech affiliate programs around.

Class1Casino is definitely going to be rogued by us.

 

[ocportal]

You hit the nail on the head. Today's so-called reputable programs could be tomorrow's "rogues". Those of us who have been in this industry for many years should know this by now. We all make mistakes and as you pointed out Wagerjunction turned things around and considered to be one of the better Playtech affiliate programs around.

Class1Casino is definitely going to be rogued by us.

Trusted programs turn into rogue programs hmmm.
The problem is, there is no trusted program at all. This is entire industry is a Joke.
Just look at the license keepers, software providers...
Providing services where prices vary depending on something undefined.

 

[cassaon888]

Trusted programs turn into rogue programs hmmm.
The problem is, there is no trusted program at all. This is entire industry is a Joke.
Just look at the license keepers, software providers...
Providing services where prices vary depending on something undefined.

You said it I didn't. It has became a joke, I just hope the U.S will regulate online gambling soon again. Should it be legalized in the U.S crappy programs will be weeded out quickly. I find casino stats to be a farce. Players have contacted us in the past whilst the so- called reputable casino we've signed up with didn't record these players in our stat report-naturally we dumped them.

 

[dfiocch]

Officially closed! Both Casino and Aff program

Just received this mail:

Dear Affiliates.

As of October 24, 2011 Class1Casino and the affiliate site will be officially closed.

As a valued part of our team, we wanted to inform you in advance so you can make all the proper changes and stop all traffic directed to Class1.

We also wanted to take the time to thank you for being a loyal affiliate. If you have any questions or comments regarding your payments please contact your Affiliate Manager or send an email to: support@class1affs.com

Sincerely,



Class1affs Team

 

[Engineer]

Wow -- thanks for sharing that.

What happened here? They didn't accept U.S. players, so we know "processing" had nothing to do with it. Were they just poorly managed?

 

[dfiocch]

Wow -- thanks for sharing that.
Were they just poorly managed?

The second... ;D

 

[CGP]

Wow -- thanks for sharing that.

What happened here? They didn't accept U.S. players, so we know "processing" had nothing to do with it. Were they just poorly managed?

The Italian market was their most important source in terms of revenue.
They were hit by the new legislation in Italy (same is valid for all licenses of Playtech). Without a license they cannot accept Italian players. Currently William Hill Casino and Titan Casino are the only brands powered by Playtech with a license issues by AAMS.

I guess this is one of the main reasons for leaving the business.

 

[lots0]

@lojo I sent you a PM let me know if you got it.

 

[lots0]

I also wanted to point out that maxima/class1 will most likely be re-branded.
After all they already did it once.

maxima closed the doors stopped payment to all the little people and rebranded as class1....

Anyone want to lay odds that all the affs that promoted class1 will soon start getting spam about a BRAND NEW 'playtech' CASINO that is sooo aff friendly.... LOL

God this business is getting sooo predictable... All you have to do is just think about how a criminal fraud ring would run a casino and you got this business down pat.