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vegasdog78
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According to @ThePOGG on CM, the group that bought them is BestPay Partners. A rogue group. GreatI'm a bit shocked it was sold to these crooks.
That's not a surprise as bestpay partners main page is also down...
vegasdog78
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At which point Tradition Casino was rebranded to Gibson Casino ? Tradition Casino still exists : http://www.traditioncasinolive.com/new/
FictionNet
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I've started to remove my Refilliates' brands listings. I was not impressed at all with Dieter's 'don't blame me for this mess' post. Highly unprofessional.
AussieDave
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If you going to state stuff like like to try prove me wrong, at least have you facts correct!
FYI it was TraditionCasino.com >> GibsonCasino.com.
NOT traditioncasinolive.com
vegasdog78
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If you going to state stuff like like to try prove me wrong, at least have you facts correct!
FYI it was TraditionCasino.com >> GibsonCasino.com.
NOT traditioncasinolive.com
Haha Yes Captain Sparrow, traditioncasino.com or traditioncasinolive.com redirects to the same site anyway. Still Tradition Casino and Gibson are 2 different casinos...
AussieDave
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Why it's good to keep email backups
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT 22th MAY 2010
Dear affiliates,
Foremost, we deeply apologize for this brutal announcement. Rival Gaming, the Tradition casino software provider is responsible for all banking transactions: our company has never had any agreement with any payment processor. Last months activity decreased because of processing problems both in U.S. and Europe that Rival Gaming did not anticipate, nor resolve.
As you know, the game industry is a sector that is both highly competitive and have unstable legal terms: first, our society can not continue to pay winnings players considering that player have received a match bonus on his deposit and that his deposit amount that enabled this winning has been blocked by a bank named X or Y... Until today, we paid all our players.
In addition, if your own players deposited and if these deposits are held by the bank, we are not able to pay you any commission, although, like us, you worked hard. We can not endure this situation.
Last, we can not stand to see dying Tradition casino by lack of support from the majority of our affiliates members. That said, we can not blame you, you expect a financial return as the fruit of your work, exactly as us.
Tradition casino has been created in order to give us the opportunity to prove that an online casino could establish a trusted relationship with players and affiliates, with transparency, and with all the love for this profession that characterized each member of our team. Therefore, given that we do not want to cheat nor "shave" your stats and/or stop pay our winners, we decided to stop the bleeding by stopping now our activity.
However, we waited several months before taking this decision, we also tried to find common ground with Rival. Unfortunately, no agreement and no viable solution has been presented to us, therefore we don't have any other choice but to cease Tradition Casino.
Igaming.pro website will be online until June 5th Igaming.pro, like this you will continue to access to your statistics and we really hope that, in the future, Rival Gaming will honor its commitments with you, better than they have done with us.
Although Tradition casino is already offline, your existing players can still continue to play and you are still cumuling earnings. However, please immediately stop sending any traffic on Tradition Casino website. Rival Gaming has already bought a domain name related to our name "Tradition Casino", so it means that Rival have a clear idea about the strategy they want to adopt with players and affiliates.
Our approach has often seemed unusual, we know this. There was gale of laughter and some conflicts as well; please keep make the most of this situation and do not forget that we did our best. Until 5th June you can still leave us your comments, simply send us an email : affiliates AT igaming.pro.
We apologize again for the inconvenience and we wish you continued success in your business affiliation.
Thank you for your trust.
Warmest regards,
Igaming.pro Team
"Better die a beggar, than live a beggar."
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT 22th MAY 2010
Dear affiliates,
Foremost, we deeply apologize for this brutal announcement. Rival Gaming, the Tradition casino software provider is responsible for all banking transactions: our company has never had any agreement with any payment processor. Last months activity decreased because of processing problems both in U.S. and Europe that Rival Gaming did not anticipate, nor resolve.
As you know, the game industry is a sector that is both highly competitive and have unstable legal terms: first, our society can not continue to pay winnings players considering that player have received a match bonus on his deposit and that his deposit amount that enabled this winning has been blocked by a bank named X or Y... Until today, we paid all our players.
In addition, if your own players deposited and if these deposits are held by the bank, we are not able to pay you any commission, although, like us, you worked hard. We can not endure this situation.
Last, we can not stand to see dying Tradition casino by lack of support from the majority of our affiliates members. That said, we can not blame you, you expect a financial return as the fruit of your work, exactly as us.
Tradition casino has been created in order to give us the opportunity to prove that an online casino could establish a trusted relationship with players and affiliates, with transparency, and with all the love for this profession that characterized each member of our team. Therefore, given that we do not want to cheat nor "shave" your stats and/or stop pay our winners, we decided to stop the bleeding by stopping now our activity.
However, we waited several months before taking this decision, we also tried to find common ground with Rival. Unfortunately, no agreement and no viable solution has been presented to us, therefore we don't have any other choice but to cease Tradition Casino.
Igaming.pro website will be online until June 5th Igaming.pro, like this you will continue to access to your statistics and we really hope that, in the future, Rival Gaming will honor its commitments with you, better than they have done with us.
Although Tradition casino is already offline, your existing players can still continue to play and you are still cumuling earnings. However, please immediately stop sending any traffic on Tradition Casino website. Rival Gaming has already bought a domain name related to our name "Tradition Casino", so it means that Rival have a clear idea about the strategy they want to adopt with players and affiliates.
Our approach has often seemed unusual, we know this. There was gale of laughter and some conflicts as well; please keep make the most of this situation and do not forget that we did our best. Until 5th June you can still leave us your comments, simply send us an email : affiliates AT igaming.pro.
We apologize again for the inconvenience and we wish you continued success in your business affiliation.
Thank you for your trust.
Warmest regards,
Igaming.pro Team
"Better die a beggar, than live a beggar."
casinonewbie
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will the new owners of the Refilliates brands please put their hands up?
I'll tell you what will happen with BestPay Partner, now that he bought Refilliates. It's simple: you will not see commissions players. Me, pay me € 200 per month instead of € 3000 I was doing every month for 5 years.
This man, John Stern, is a major crook. So bye bye commissions Refilliates. This week, I withdraw all Refilliates casinos. I will send my players as message: tropica, black list and all Refilliates casinos also.
For 15 years I worked in the online casino, I have never seen a crook also bastard in the world of casinos. I wonder how he can sleep ... God forgive him ...
This man, John Stern, is a major crook. So bye bye commissions Refilliates. This week, I withdraw all Refilliates casinos. I will send my players as message: tropica, black list and all Refilliates casinos also.
For 15 years I worked in the online casino, I have never seen a crook also bastard in the world of casinos. I wonder how he can sleep ... God forgive him ...
casinonewbie
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Don't worry everything is going to be fine and dandy....
"We (management) are remaining with Refilliates for 2 months after the sale is concluded to ensure the brands are in good hands.Regards,
Dieter"
This must be the quote of the year...
KasinoKing
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If that is true - I have a LOT of work to do getting the Refilliates brands off dozens of pages on my sites.According to @ThePOGG on CM, the group that bought them is BestPay Partners. A rogue group. Great
And what about the 1,000's of players I sent to their casinos - how can I warn them that the casinos are now in criminal hands?
Can anyone 100% verify that BestPay ARE the new owners?
What a total backstreet abortion!
KK
ThePOGG
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Hey KK,
They're not hiding it. Last line on this page - hxxp://tropicacasino.com/terms-and-conditions.php:
Tropica said:
and from this page - hxxp://play2wincasinos.com/terms_conditions:
Play2Win said:
They're the same company now. As one just bought over the other I feel it's safe to say that Cyberrock are the people behind BestPay Partners.
It's also worth noting that this is the same company behind the new Driven Affiliates.
TP
KasinoKing
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Thanks, and oh $^£$"^%!
vegasdog78
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Does Anyone know a BestPayPartners affiliate manager ?
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working on it.
vegasdog78
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You may ask John from Driven Affiliates ex-BPP skp : john.stern4. But he might block you from skype... be careful (huge loss)
KasinoKing
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John Stern - but that's NOT his real nameDoes Anyone know a BestPayPartners affiliate manager ?
I don't know what his real name is - but if he lies to people about that, what else is he lying about...?
(I did actually meet him once - at LAC several years ago).
KK
AussieDave
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This John character, sounds like another Warren Cloud, aka Oliver Curran.
Glad I pulled refiliate casinos ages ago.
Lost a few signed up players BUT compared to those who have been heavily promoting these casinos, it doesn't look very good at all, for you guys
Glad I pulled refiliate casinos ages ago.
Lost a few signed up players BUT compared to those who have been heavily promoting these casinos, it doesn't look very good at all, for you guys
SuperiorShare
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Wow! There's a blast from the past. Warren Cloud.This John character, sounds like another Warren Cloud, aka Oliver Curran.
Glad I pulled refiliate casinos ages ago.
Lost a few signed up players BUT compared to those who have been heavily promoting these casinos, it doesn't look very good at all, for you guys
slotplayer
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This John character, sounds like another Warren Cloud, aka Oliver Curran.
Glad I pulled refiliate casinos ages ago.
Lost a few signed up players BUT compared to those who have been heavily promoting these casinos, it doesn't look very good at all, for you guys
I was going to join at some point but never got around to it.
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