Videoslots Affiliates

[DaftDog]

It's a bit like the "War on Drugs!", although well intentioned it's doing more harm than good.

 

[AidanLCFC]

Personally, I would not be so mean towards Miles, he is just the manager and doing what the owner is telling him. Blame the owner not Miles. IMO

and it's no wonder he doesn't post on the forums anymore when people turned it into a personal witch hunt against him

 

[AidanLCFC]

It's a bit like the "War on Drugs!", although well intentioned it's doing more harm than good.

on a side note i personally would have said 'complete rubbish' to that, BEFORE, I have started reading a book called Drug Wars. It was fascinating reading how the UK dealt with drugs before the US pushed the whole world in the war on drugs. In the old days here (can't remember where you're based) heroin addicts got heroin free on perscription so there was no need for dealers so there was no one trying to get others hooked, addiction levels were in the low hundreds, then the war on drugs started....
anyway back on topic

 

[betclever]

Personally, I would not be so mean towards Miles, he is just the manager and doing what the owner is telling him. Blame the owner not Miles. IMO

I am sure Miles would have known what Videoslots affiliate program was like before he decided to take a wage from them.

Think especially on GPWA people where upset that Miles was trying to justify the programme which is most likely the worst out there.



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[bonustreak]

I believe when Miles took the job and uprooted his family moving from SA to Malta the company was transparent at the time. Now, all these years later they have turned rogue. I honestly hope Miles is looking for a new place to work at in Malta. There are plenty of good honest companies based on the island.

 

[Biti]

I am sure Miles would have known what Videoslots affiliate program was like before he decided to take a wage from them.

Think especially on GPWA people where upset that Miles was trying to justify the programme which is most likely the worst out there.



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Exactly.

Miles is a "hi mate, bla bla"-guy, but if discussions are getting more difficult, he ducks. Just like he did where. After that Ali Atam had to clean up the mess.

I'd say he's the right man at the right place.

 

[AussieDave]

I believe when Miles took the job and uprooted his family moving from SA to Malta the company was transparent at the time. Now, all these years later they have turned rogue.

Aside from moving to Malta from SA, the rest is Fake News.

As this forum's Admin, and long time casino affiliate, I'm shocked your not savvy to the fact VS removed the "stats" way back in 2014 (something about a glitch) but promising they'd be reinstated back within 2 weeks.

Those facts have been posted numerous times to many AGD threads, which you've participated in. Do you not read posts

FYI...
Miles joined their affiliate program in 2017, those "stats" had still not been reinstated. I'd call that anything but transparent. So when Miles took up his AM position at VS, they were rogue then, just as they are rogue now.

 

[NDG]

It's very difficult to defend anyone at that affiliate program. They were never transparent.

 

[AussieDave]

It's very difficult to defend anyone at that affiliate program. They were never transparent.

But there lays the problem... This defending mindset. It's total BS. When it's an AM who is not popular or known within affiliate circles, no one raises an eyebrow when their made accountable for their part in screwing over affiliates.

Yet, and here's the irony, just like what has played out in Mile's case...

Popular AM's can lie, cheat, and be an all knowing party to a program literally robbing their affiliates blind. While I agree AM's don't own the company. However, they make a personal choice to lie and mislead their affiliates for their employer.

If an AM is popular, they can do all this and more.
Yet, regardless, some people continue to defend their moral-less behaviour

Edit:
Food for thought... When Martyn Beacon discovered Affiliate Edge were screwing their affiliates, he resigned and left, even though they owed him wages, plus he had no job to go to. Mile's could (should) resign but hasn't... nuff said!

Once I held Miles in high esteem, not anymore though.

 

[NDG]

I totally agree with what you are saying. Affiliates need to treat this as a business, and some do not. It seems
that relationships with affiliate managers are built at conferences, in forums, or elsewhere.. and those relationships
sometimes cloud the judgement of affiliates when it comes down to decision making for their business. It's great to
have a working relationship with affiliate managers, especially if you can work well together and make a good commission.
But, you need to be protecting your affiliate business 1st, and developing the friendships with affiliate managers 2nd.

 

[AussieDave]

And I can't for the love of my life understand why Casinomeister is protecting them day in and day out. What VS has done is not that much different from Freaky Affiliates.

@gobo I'm guessing Freaky Affiliates is the program behind Freaky Casino?

If that's the case... They got busted redirecting traffic from the .com to the .co.uk, without passing forward aff tags. Maybe CM is on a hybrid deal, that is, a listing fee and RS. In which case, those unethical redirects would affect his bottom line.

Put it this way...VS aren't diddling the CM pot, where as Freaky Affiliates very likely were. VS is keen to keep CM on side. I don't see they'd shaft him, unlike shafting their other affiliates who they clearly don't give a rat's butt about

Adding, I'm sure VS doesn't make CM wait 5 weeks or more to be paid earnings...

 

[Ryders]

All complain about VS affiliate program and managers. Many have stopped working with them, and promote them.
But why everyone is silent about how bad they are at СM.
Write there, raise topics. But everywhere everything is bad with this casino except СM.
and damn it for some reason I am sure that Casino Meister works under special conditions with VS and closes his eyes to such topics as on a guard dog.
My personal opinion is that they are not the partners that I would like to promote or cooperate with.

 

[danniee]

All complain about VS affiliate program and managers. Many have stopped working with them, and promote them.
But why everyone is silent about how bad they are at СM.
Write there, raise topics. But everywhere everything is bad with this casino except СM.
and damn it for some reason I am sure that Casino Meister works under special conditions with VS and closes his eyes to such topics as on a guard dog.
My personal opinion is that they are not the partners that I would like to promote or cooperate with.

I'm starting to have doubts about Casinomeister. It used to be a great place but now it seems there's a small clique of members running the show, many of which are affiliates that use Casinomeister to either promote their own websites or use it to put down their competition.

 

[CL-Ed]

@gobo I'm guessing Freaky Affiliates is the program behind Freaky Casino?

If that's the case... They got busted redirecting traffic from the .com to the .co.uk, without passing forward aff tags. Maybe CM is on a hybrid deal, that is, a listing fee and RS. In which case, those unethical redirects would affect his bottom line.

Put it this way...VS aren't diddling the CM pot, where as Freaky Affiliates very likely were. VS is keen to keep CM on side. I don't see they'd shaft him, unlike shafting their other affiliates who they clearly don't give a rat's butt about

Adding, I'm sure VS doesn't make CM wait 5 weeks or more to be paid earnings...

Hmmm that is interesting. Who was the affiliate manager at Freaky Affiliates? And who was the affiliate manager at Video Slots when it first started? I think you will find they are one and the same person.

 

[AussieDave]

@CL-Ed his name was Lucas. I noticed that too

For those who weren't around to enjoy his company here is a thread from 2012:
http://www.gpwa.org/forum/videoslots-com-affiliate-accuses-them-scammers-206941.html

As one affiliate posted: "It's nice that you consider feedback "

Edit:
Forgot to add... Quote from Lucas in that thread:

Videoslots.com was recently merged with Dbet.com (Diamondbet.com). If you had an account at Dbet.com this account has been transferred to Videoslots.com.

Diamondbet.com has a basic holder page. However DBet.com well... That's very much alive, and according to the site, it will open in 2019, with a casino, sportsbook, poker and live casino. Given the CEO Alexander doesn't dispose of domains once owned, maybe he still owns DBet.com.

Haven't seen any mention of DBet.com from the VS camp, yet; usually Alexander like to brag about such things.

Sure hope affiliate tag players (if marketed to DBet.com) receive their rightful commissions, for these players, if VS still owns or otherwise operates DBet.com.

Should have run a whois:

DBet.com is registered to:
Registrant Organization: Panda Media Limited
Registrant State/Province: Sliema
Registrant Country: MT

Aside from the Panda Media Entry, and going on the complete whois data, one couldn't be blamed for maybe thinking DBet.com has attempted to hide its connection(s) to VS et al.

NB - VS purchased PKR Poker back sometime in 2017 I believe.

pokerhand.org/rakeback-dbet.aspx

The other thing I dug up... partner.videoslots.com/news/?action=news&slug=congratulations-our-affiliate-john-wright-the-first-edition-of-the-commission-magazine-is-out-now

Is Simon Wright (news reporter for CM) related to John Wright?

The more I dig, the more I think WTF???!!!

 

[Guard Dog]

Hi guys, we received a message from Miles today.
He informed us that from July 1st, 2019 he will no longer be working at Videoslots.

 

[Biti]

Did he finally found out that his salary was cut with 90% fees too?

 

[BetOnlineUK]

I think Miles will definately get his cred back now he has left these people. He is too good at his job not to be snapped up by someone. Hopefully somewhere that treats their affiliates the right way and not look to shaft them at every turn.

 

[AussieDave]

Hi guys, we received a message from Miles today.
He informed us that from July 1st, 2019 he will no longer be working at Videoslots.

That's good to hear. I'm sure either has another job to go to, or wont have any trouble finding another. Given he's now resigned or whatever happened, we should try to cut him some slack...just sayin!

 

[CL-Ed]

I think Miles will definately get his cred back now he has left these people. He is too good at his job not to be snapped up by someone. Hopefully somewhere that treats their affiliates the right way and not look to shaft them at every turn.

I find these sorts of posts about his "cred" and reputation odd. Maybe it's because he used to post a lot of inconsequential stuff in affiliate forums so people would think he's their friend?

He ably helped short-change affiliates in the transfer from Red Returns to Fortune Affiliates (I think it was?), then moved to a RTG group that ended up among the worst of the rogues. Then on to Video Slots and we can all see how that has turned out. It's not exactly a gleaming CV. He loves the "I'm just doing what the boss tells me" excuse, though I think he's overplayed it a few times too many.

I for one can't wait for the new affiliate manager to come in here and post some marketing spiel telling us how wonderful VS is for affiliates in a month or two.