Grand Prive VIP Lounge/ Big Dollar VIP Lounge Begging For Affiliates!!!

[GamTrak]

I don't care who does or does not like them or wants to or doesn't want to promote them or whatever, I am merely and only trying to get affiliates paid for work already performed.

To be honest I can't say that I'm surprised that they want to pay up and move on. They can't be happy about folks like me on thier ass. ;D

Thanks much Dom! That's all I want. To be paid what I've earned and turn the page on this issue.

I will take a FAIR settlement, but I will not remove any of the blacklisting I've done to get it. I hope that that will not be a requirement to get paid!

Good job!

 

[arkyt]

Could you explain how you plan to go about verifying that any and all affiliates which were shorted are actually paid?

I'm going to go out on a limb and take a wild guess here - you have absolutely no way at all of verifying any such thing!

 

[dominique]

You're joking, right?

People who don't step forward can't be counted.

It'll be lucky to get the ones who did file claims get paid what they are actually owed. That's what this is about.

 

[arkyt]

You're joking, right?

People who don't step forward can't be counted.

It'll be lucky to get the ones who did file claims get paid what they are actually owed. That's what this is about.

Me? Joking?

If you think its fine and dandy for GP to step up and pay a few "mouths" and then let those mouths run around claiming everything is now fine and dandy and "solved" - you've got to be the one joking!

 

[Engineer]

My thoughts:

Dom could have simply ignored the lunch invitation, but she didn't. I think she deserves some credit for at least attempting to continue the dialogue with these guys. I would have told them to f*ck off -- Dom chose not to do that and now there might be new hope for those affected. Time will tell....

That said, if the ownership hasn't changed, why should affiliates believe things will be different this time around? Even if GP does pay up now, would anyone seriously trust that the owner wouldn't steal everyone's residual income again in 5 years?

IMO they should create an account here and join the conversation. If they are truly serious about cleaning this up, they will apologize, they'll start communicating openly, and they will address every single issue presented to them.

 

[dominique]

Ok guys, I am going to stop posting here.

If and when I see results, I will report them.

I have zero interest in getting involved in flames about this, I saw an opportunity to get some affs paid and that is what I am going to pursue.

If anyone doesn't like that, go ahead and vent all you like but leave me out of it. I am going to fix what I can and be done with it.

 

[arkyt]

Dom could have simply ignored the lunch invitation, but she didn't.

Is getting a few people paid at the cost of them screwing over everyone else is a price really worth paying?

At what point does a program like this get to claim they have paid up and get back into the good graces of sites like CAP and GPWA?

 

[Aussie-Dave]

Hi All,

GP owes me nothing so I have no vested interest either way.

What I'm reading here are two separate issues.

• Affiliates who are still owed their rightful earnings from GP.
• GP being accepted back into the affiliate market.

Regardless of anything GP must pay affiliates their money.

JMO but after the way GP handled this matter (approaching 3 years), I wouldn't trust them again.

I understand this is a delicate topic with a lot of people whether they promoted Grand Prive Casino or not.

However I don't think attacking Dom is a fair call or cool.
She didn't have to hook up with GP in Vegas and besides Dom is only the messenger.


Cheers



Dave

 

[KasinoKing]

Is getting a few people paid at the cost of them screwing over everyone else is a price really worth paying?

At what point does a program like this get to claim they have paid up and get back into the good graces of sites like CAP and GPWA?

Shouldn't be too difficult for them since both those organizations are perfectly happy to promote the whole Virtual Casino group - the biggest online crooks in the industry.
As long as they pay their $ to be listed, they will be welcomed with open arms.

For what it's worth, I also think we should all be thanking Dom, not criticizing.

KK

 

[arkyt]

However I don't think attacking Dom is a fair call or cool. She didn't have to hook up with GP in Vegas and besides Dom is only the messenger.

I agree that it is a bit premature; because anything at this point would be presumptuous. Course we have been around the block more than a few times and we've seen episodes like this before. Considering that, I don't think that presuming certain scenarios vs others is such a big gamble.

 

[bonustreak]

However I don't think attacking Dom is a fair call or cool.
She didn't have to hook up with GP in Vegas and besides Dom is only the messenger.

That is right she took time out of a fun trip and at the last minute attended a meeting that I blew off. You do not have to take up GP offer people there is no gun pointed to your head. You can simply say thanks Dom for thinking of me but I am going to take a pass. I am shocked at some of your behavior to be honest! Is this what you want the affiliate programs see? Affiliates attacking and ganging up on each other?

There are ways to talk to people and some of these post just have me really ticked off. Dom has a business of her own and she has a husband to care for she did NOT have to give herself the headache of going to talk to these guys on our behalf but she chose to try to help her fellow affiliates.

I am one of the affiliates thinking this is not resolved and I am personally going to communicate with GP on my own to negotiate what I think they owe me and from there decide how to handle things. I cannot say what I will do but I will not criticize anyone that decides to work with them again if they decide to take the chance on being totally screwed over again that is their business not mine.

Bottom line this is a step forward communication has started and I hope if GP does come here to talk to us that everyone remains professional and keeps the flaming away! We are here as professionals lets act like it please.

Maybe we need to start a new thread and close this one off or split this one I don't know but it is out of hand now.

 

[arkyt]

! Is this what you want the affiliate programs see? Affiliates attacking and ganging up on each other?

Programs can easily see 80% + affiliates openly posting about shaving, and you think a disagreement about Grand Prive, a proven cheat is going to turn their heads? Really?

 

[Aussie-Dave]

I agree that it is a bit premature; because anything at this point would be presumptuous. Course we have been around the block more than a few times and we've seen episodes like this before. Considering that, I don't think that presuming certain scenarios vs others is such a big gamble.

I'm all for speaking one's mind and opinions - I do it many times ;D

For a moment lets realise she didn't have to take time out of her day...
However Dom did and I believe did it because there was an opportunity to do a face to face meeting.

Knowing Dom and her passion towards not only the GP issue but also other gaming industry issues over the years, I highly doubt she'd be suckered into anything. She's a smart Lady!

However if you want to go around bashing and flaming people who stick their neck out, then go right ahead but IMHO it ain't cool!



Cheers



Dave

 

[arkyt]

However if you want to go around bashing and flaming people who stick their neck out, then go right ahead but IMHO it ain't cool!

Dave - I haven't seen any "bashing" here, least not yet!

I had merely posted asking how Dom planned to verify that ALL affiliates were paid and SHE responded asking if I was joking. There hasn't been any bashing - nothing even close to that, so I'm not sure where you are coming from.

 

[GamTrak]

If I remember correctly the majority of the affiliates 'settled' with Grand Prive when we were alerted about the closure. It was a small number of us that somehow got missed and then screwed over in the audit so there may not be many more 'victims' at this point.

IMO anyone that has not filed a claim or contacted them and complained about not getting paid has closed the book on the issue. Plus if they have not googled to research the situration nor kept up with it then there is not much more anyone can do.

I'm very happy to see that Dom got them to admit that what we had been saying all along about the legacy players was infact true meaning that it was more than a few folks just crying sour grapes on the forums, but had a legitimate complaint! ;D

 

[lots0]

I don't think anyone was "attacking" Dom...

Dom made a statement and I think there were some valid questions thrown her way, over her statement and she chose to get offended rather than answer the questions.

I'm with Robin, I believe that all the affs that wanted to get paid got some money, not all they were owed, but enough that everyone I know has closed the book on any monies owed from GP.

I would love to hear from ANYONE that is still trying to collect affiliate monies from Grand Privy. Anyone? Really anyone at all....

So I guess I have a hard time, understanding why anyone would need "stand up" for these (non-existant?)affiliates with a face to face meeting with GP...

 

[dominique]

Dom made a statement and I think there were some valid questions thrown her way, over her statement and she chose to get offended rather than answer the questions.

I'm not offended, I see no point in engaging in a useless flame about things that cannot be changed.

Gamtrack hit it on the head:

If I remember correctly the majority of the affiliates 'settled' with Grand Prive when we were alerted about the closure. It was a small number of us that somehow got missed and then screwed over in the audit so there may not be many more 'victims' at this point.

IMO anyone that has not filed a claim or contacted them and complained about not getting paid has closed the book on the issue. Plus if they have not googled to research the situration nor kept up with it then there is not much more anyone can do.

I have said all there is to say at this point, and I am leaving this thread again, I just wanted to make clear that I feel in no way offended, I just dislike pointless flames that will not yield any results for anyone.

Like I said, I am going to fix what I can and be done with it.

 

[lots0]

Like I said, I am going to fix what I can and be done with it.

Sorry I guess I was wrong, you were not offended. Although you did sound like you were.

OK I just gotta ask.... What is there to fix?

 

[dominique]

If I remember correctly the majority of the affiliates 'settled' with Grand Prive when we were alerted about the closure. It was a small number of us that somehow got missed and then screwed over in the audit so there may not be many more 'victims' at this point. ;D

Quoted again.

 

[bonustreak]

What needs to be fixed is affiliates like myself that promoted GP for 7yrs or so, sent them hundreds of players and was offered a settlement of 7 bucks! That is flawed accounting/auditing and has to be fixed trust me.